It has to work for you, just as Foosh stated. It must work for you. Because in your mind, you made yourself like it. Because you ordered one.​​​​​​​ You honestly aren't getting that, are you?

 

Get used to it. He's been doing that for months. He even claimed he had ordered one based on a flimsy deposit and no order. He back tracks on anything he's been proven entirely wrong on, then manufactures more threads to repeat what he doesn't know. He'll go viral on you if you tell him that you don't like his pet color, the Rapid Blue.

Really rather humorous.

 

Let me see if I can help with the Box-like thinking of GM's Design Teams Vs your thinking on "rounding off the rear 1/4s and some of the rear deck" like other Mid-Engine cars have.

1st, did you see the video "The Design Team Members" used to explain certain features of the C8 at Museum 25th get together, "Yes Or No" if no, "find it", "look at it", as it should help you understand what that team considered as "Goal" to improve it's Sports Car performance above prior generation(s) that it plays off. It was an eye opener for me, concerning it final design. That Video, is what made me want it, at my age...LOL Yes car will be tracked, at 1st by someone who I call my "Step-Son-in-Law", who is an avid completion Track Car Driver. He is also going to help me learn to Drive/Handle car on track, after I return from Driving School.

Part of this post includes what I saw some post about the C8's Front-End being to "Busy, due to contour changes across it. Those to me just broke up what would have been a to 'Flat Look" to me.
That's the 1st thing the Video ex-planed for me, an that just might help you understand the why of Rear deck flat look you don't care for. That video is what made me appreciate the C8's design, so much after seeing it I when an put a $5,000.00 dollar deposit on one, then on the 9/12, was called in to place order for one.

View looking down on car. Notice the front end's raised creases on it, an then follow the two inter ones as they continue up an over the C8 Top. The video I mention above explained their function an what they do. Now look at the design of the Z51 rear's spoiler.

Could GM achieved the Goal of that design feature if the rear end's deck and 1/4's had been rounded like the other car's think look better? Yes or Know?

C8 is a Sports Car. I myself appreciate GM's design that improves handling of car! I also see the rear deck's base design was a carryover from the C7's. Did GM play off it's what it learned, design "Aerodynamics" wise as well as from lessons learned from C4,C5, C6 over the years?
I think they have.




Look at the above picture. Do you see the creases across across the front end, then follow the two enter creases as they continue across the C8's top, then look at the design of the rear spoiler at it's center. Now remember back on why those creases were included in the front-end design, then continued across the top. What was the reason for all of then? Now think back about what was said happens when that air strikes the front windshield, what does it create that helps with front end down-force especially when windshield moved forward due to ME design of C8 Vs say any other generation of corvette?

Now with that bit of information, look at the design of the rear deck's spoiler, an think back about what happened when air hit the base of the windshield.
What did it create at base of windshield, that the rear spoiler design wise, uses to create the same thing and results that allows the Rear Spoilers center design to do it's job, an improve handling of the C8?

The overall effects of C8 design to me improve it's handling.

If the C8's overall looks is more import to you than handling, then it's simple don't buy one! You don't need to explain why you want be buying one. If you did that I wouldn't be boring others with this post...LOL

I've seen that others explain the other reason behind C8 rear design that have been brought up. I just wanted to touch on mine, based on Aerodynamic, only.

 

You don't know any more about the car than we do at this point. There's no definitive independent testing results of the car's performance to study on. All we know for sure is that GM is all bananas over the car. Oh, and that former GM employee and race car driver Jim Mero, downplayed the car with heavy doubt.

 

Totally agree with that. The engineers hit it out of the park with features and performance capabilities. The designers had their hands tied by the marketing staff and had to compromise too much. It's unfortunate but I get it. Trying to include items in a performance car that just aren't necessary requires you make sacrifices to the design. The targa top and the need for "trip" storage essentially drove the overall styling of the C8. Make no mistake about that. If a bunch of customers went to Ferrari and demanded storage space for trips in their MEs, Ferrari's answer would be either ... "leave your significant other home" or "go buy an SUV".

The Corvette team didn't have that luxury. The designers couldn't create the ME they really wanted because customers were too hung up on legacy items and requirements (storage and targas) they couldn't let go of. Just imagine what the C8 COULD have been without those two boat anchors to the styling.

Personally, I love what the engineers did to create the ME without having to resort to carbon fiber or other costly exotic materials. I'm excited about the new DCT. Always wanted to have an ME with that as well as a NA engine.

These are what I have a problem with, unfortunately, they're mostly styling related:

Rear end ... way too busy and way too high. The taillights look like an afterthought that they borrowed from the Cruze parts bin.
Rear spoiler ... doesn't look like it really belongs there (would have LOVED an active aero wing instead)
Side scoops ... THE worst part of the whole design. What were they thinking?!? That nut scratcher design is just stupid.
Hood ... way too many lines, way more then necessary for a clean look
Front end ... the openings in the grille looks MASSIVE! Did they really need to be THAT big?
Interior ... whoever approved that wall of buttons should be forced to walk naked through a thicket of cactus.

I really want to like the new C8 (and actually get one) but I might have to wait until the C9 so they can sort out some of these hairball styling cues they came up with. I'm with IronV and Foosh on this one. It's ok, but just OK.

 

GM has never been known for producing beautiful corvettes in recent years (see C5-C7).

Function over form this time around on the C8.

 

Skid Row - perhaps you should read Jim's blog for further insight on what you are saying about Jim Mero and the C8: https://jimmero.com/mid-engine-c8-co...jims-response/

 

Hey buddy (use your imagination to insert stronger language)... here's your "flimsy deposit, no order" . You clearly don't like the car... why are you here?

 

The C8 is the best car on the planet--all things considered. It is, however, a styling disaster. Literally a confused busy mess.

 

I just don't see how anyone can see this overall package as "ugly".... it's stunning. Especially compared to the C7.



To those who keep saying they should just lower the rear.... how? The proportions are very good.... the fender height, belt line, and quarter all work well together. You can't just "lower the rear" w/o changing the entire profile of the car.



The hips are awesome.

 

I knew I'd heard of your Moniker, just didn't know where.

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He is trying to keep you under control, with his posts on different threads.

I'm a 76 year old Gamer....LOL

 

If The designers weren so obsessed with golf clubs and used the space for active aero, cleaned up that confused oversized butt it would have been drop dead beautiful, even if it ended up costing $10,000 more. I think it would have been worth it.
Maybe they'll take the hint and use the idea with the Z06.
I'm sure they could have designed the frunk to hold the roof.

 

No.... after seeing the car in person there is no way the roof could have fit in the frunk. The trunk is a byproduct of the space over the transaxle and the chosen belt-line for the car. I would beat you $1,000,000 if they'd designed the car with a frunk only or a fixed roof you'd have half the sales; period.

 

If only it could have looked more like this. Subtle changes but they make all the difference in the world.



The guy who did this is incredibly talented. You can check out his automotive designs (pretty stunning, btw!!!) on Facebook @ Rain Prisk Design then go to Photos.

 

^^^^^^^^^
This. EVERY car ever designed is some form of compromise. GM had some items that were core to Corvette and wouldn't abandon them and that includes enough usable storage space for trips, a removable roof, etc. Some have bitched the front openings are too big, probably the same ones that would file a class action lawsuit if it overheated on a track in the summer at 98 degrees.

 

Every Vette I've ever owned gave me one option for storage.in the trunk. Either the roof or your whatever, not both. I can't see why this car required both.
It just spoiled an otherwise beautiful car.

 

Sorry, you can't afford me.

 

OK, I'll check out your link.

I stated exactly what Jim Mero's sentiments he wrote about the as upcoming unreleased, C8 were.

I didn't get that wrong. Let me add that Jim Mero then stated that; "he would never do that again." He didn't say why he wouldn't say what he did! What he did say in essence was that more than one GM employee (Tadge?) chewed him out for making his public disparaging quotes, about his heavy assorted doubts of the C8. Of that, I am certain.

If Jim Mero retracted any of his statements? I'm not aware of it. If he did retract any of his statements, then I would be highly suspect of his motivation(s).

It's quite possible that any retractions were done under duress of possible GM retribution or punishment. Not because they were legitimate retractions.

OK. I read enough to realize that he skillfully wrote a "damage control statement" on his website. That's pretty clear. If one hadn't read his previously published Q & A piece, they couldn't have discerned the differences. However, I'm unconvinced of the new piece replacing the old piece.

 

TL;DR. Styling is largely subjective. Stop trying to convince people otherwise.

 

[QUOTE=Tool Hoarder;1600225279]I just don't see how anyone can see this overall package as "ugly".... it's stunning. Especially compared to the C7.



Ugly? No, but not stunning either, in my opinion.

Especially from that angle and the focal length used on the lens that took the picture. It's somewhat wide angle, which further accentuates the massive grill/openings of the front end.

I really dislike the side vents too. The shape is jarring and I hate the tacked on look of the leading edge plastic piece.

The rear is very busy. I don't so much mind the height, it just has too much going on. Like others have said, I would have also preferred a fixed roof and just eliminate the rear trunk all together to give more design options.

It's also a very large car. I don't like that at all. It's Aventador sized, rather than Huracan sized. I think the Aventador is not the greatest looking car either, but really like the Huracan, especially the Performante.

Lastly, and fortunately these things are relatively easy to fix, the wheel designs, offsets, and wheel gap are just terrible and really detract from the overall look. I have a feeling that once people put some good looking aftermarket wheels with proper offsets, and lower the car a little bit it should significantly improve the overall look. I have a GT3RS, so that has definitely spoiled me in this regard. The offset and wheel gap on that car stock are absolutely perfect IMO.