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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 09:03 AM
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This kind of a "run" is exactly why most car magazine tests results are often considerably off the mark of what is possible. Does anyone remember those old TV shows like the one hosted by Bud Lindeman where they tested 60s and early 70s muscle cars. It was hillarious, some of the tests 0-60 were gently off idle and other were clutch dumps resulting in nothing more than a burnout show. I've also seen 0-60 times for late model 911s vary by nearly a full second between the many "tests".

We will know how strong the C8 Stingray is when 1/4 mile trap MPH #s are generated by the competent, experienced, end users.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 09:14 AM
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Watch the windshield view... He clearly started backing off for the curve after the 3 to 4 shift....
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 10:19 AM
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Had he backed off the trans would not have shifted at redline.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 11:34 AM
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It flabberghasts me how many people are are convincing themselves the c8 is slower than a c7. It gained 40 hp. It gained 150 something pounds in weight.

For this to be physically possible: a 150 pound (total), 40 hp, 8 speed shiter kart would have to be slower than a c7.

What we're seeing is just poor conditions for acceleration testing .

The only time a corvette has been slower than a previous generation was, I believe, the c4.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by punky
This kind of a "run" is exactly why most car magazine tests results are often considerably off the mark of what is possible
IF the driver of the original video is indeed the owner of the Instagram account, Jason Cammisa, he was on record on a podcast somewhere detailing what they (the magazines) actually do for instrumented 0-60 tests. And it's crazy the amount of prep and abuse that goes into their actual tests, in that on manual cars they often have only about 5 shots to get the BEST number possible for publication because the clutch would be toast the way they launch it. Obviously with auto and automated manuals with launch control, it's taken a lot of guess work out of it, but he was pretty straight forward in saying that their testers are professionals and he (Cammisa) himself can't match or come close to what they do.

I think it might have been this one.


I suspect a lot of times, manufacturers simply "quote" a theoretical 0-60 based on crank power, gearing, and tire diameter and assume maximum grip. Those numbers are virtually impossible to replicate.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Peppino Esposito
It flabberghasts me how many people are are convincing themselves the c8 is slower than a c7. It gained 40 hp. It gained 150 something pounds in weight.

For this to be physically possible: a 150 pound (total), 40 hp, 8 speed shiter kart would have to be slower than a c7.

What we're seeing is just poor conditions for acceleration testing .

The only time a corvette has been slower than a previous generation was, I believe, the c4.
No question the C8 will be faster to 60. No question at all. Many of us were worrying about the performance anywhere else than from a stop. Like other said, who does 0-60 in real life ? I fu*** don't care about 0-60, but what the car gives from rolls, which is representative of how the car will accelerate out of a turn, at 30-40-50-60-70-80 scenario. The 60-100 is very slow in the video. Hopefully this is just a bad example. I don'tsee the car being slower than a C7 with 40hp more and a 8 speed DCT. Not possible. Even with 150 lbs more

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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by The HACK

I suspect a lot of times, manufacturers simply "quote" a theoretical 0-60 based on crank power, gearing, and tire diameter and assume maximum grip. Those numbers are virtually impossible to replicate.
Really depends on the manufacturers. Some will quote what it can do and some quote what it will do.

Anyhow, if you compare the launch control video posted a while back and listen to the gear shifts and compare to where the shifts are here, the launch control video is much faster at going through the gears. Although I don't know how much different the transmission is in touring and track mode, I timed a difference of at least a second between this car's shift to 4th and the launch control video. This video is probably showing the real low end of what the C8 can do.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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I can't believe people are using this video as any type of authoritative answer on C8 performance. That's just silly.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by thill444
I can't believe people are using this video as any type of authoritative answer on C8 performance. That's just silly.
They're C7 owners looking to make themselves feel better.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 02:43 PM
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Awesome video. I don't care what you say. For a daily driver, that car is fast.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 07:28 PM
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It's at 3500ft allegedly. That and a passenger and it shows (if one is to believe it is a sub 3 second car). Problem is.. even with those factors in play? That is not how a sub 3 second car accelerates... this car will be low to mid 3s. And 100 will be closer to a Base C7 A8.

The forced induction models will be much quicker and at altitude even more so. After owning 2 C7 Z06s I dont think an NA vette would ever feel fulfilling that video is even more of a reminder..
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 16/C7Z
After owning 2 C7 Z06s I dont think an NA vette would ever feel fulfilling that video is even more of a reminder..

It will be in the first 0-60 as my NA c8 smokes both your z06's


I guess we all might as well cancel our orders for the next year or 2 and save another 20-30 grand so we can feel ......fullfilled. lol

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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 08:27 AM
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I'm hopeful the base C8 will be just a little fulfilling.
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 07:33 PM
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true, but if you guys remember the c8 that showed up at the NCM Bash...when it pulled away, suddenly it got VERY loud midway through a pull. Unlikely the valves take seconds to switch over.

I suspect this run was done with the exhaust in tour, and I suspect that you can keep the exhaust quiet in the c8, full throttle or not.
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lostsoul
It will be in the first 0-60 as my NA c8 smokes both your z06's


I guess we all might as well cancel our orders for the next year or 2 and save another 20-30 grand so we can feel ......fullfilled. lol
Lmao... there's gonna be a lot of head scratching in here after some of these C8 owners try to sub 3 their cars lol.
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 16/C7Z
Lmao... there's gonna be a lot of head scratching in here after some of these C8 owners try to sub 3 their cars lol.
Your lucky ...this forum seems immunne to eating crow...
The manufacture states 0-60 times of precisely 2.9(Z51) and 3.0..And you think they’re gonna miss by more then half a second???
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pietro c7
Your lucky ...this forum seems immunne to eating crow...
The manufacture states 0-60 times of precisely 2.9(Z51) and 3.0..And you think they’re gonna miss by more then half a second???
Take this anecdotal evidence for whatever it’s worth. I have a 2019 C7 StingRay A8 with Performance Exhaust. It only has +/-5,000 miles on it. I have tried repeatedly to get the advertised 0-60 3.7 sec. Now in Ca we can only get 91 octane fuel, that could be the reason.

I live at at near sea level +/- 100’. Level ground, good asphalt, low ambient air temps, track mode, sport mode, launch control, no launch control, repeatedly over different days, every which way. With 0-60 times recorder on...Never been able to do better than 0-60 in 4.4 sec.

???
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 06:07 AM
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I have a slightly modded rcf.
exhaust tune and intake.
I cant do any better than 4.0. And my buddy has a 18 grand sport. I can never ever beat in in zero to sixty, or quarter mile.
We do run 94 here in nj. Even e85 or cam 2 available here. But it really doesn’t seem to change anything.
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