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Old Jul 13, 2020 | 01:19 PM
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Don't hold your breath waiting for that. It's not going to happen any time soon. TR is here to stay.
Torch Red has only been found on Corvettes from 1993-1998 and then 2010 to present. How long has Corvette been around?
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Torch Red has only been found on Corvettes from 1993-1998 and then 2010 to present. How long has Corvette been around?
I'm not sure where you got your model years from, but you're mistaken slightly.

TR went from '93-'04, took a break from '05-'09, and because of the intense explosion in the Corvette community, came back in '10.
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Yep, Mazda made their similar color (Soul Red) so popular, starting in 2014, that a lot of manufacturers have jumped on the bandwagon. Toyota has a similar color as well.

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Did Toyota really make their own? The only Toyotas that I've seen in that kind of red are rebadged Mazdas. Even if it's on other cars, I wouldn't be surprised if they use Mazda's paint for it since they are partners now.
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Old Jul 13, 2020 | 02:23 PM
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I'm not sure where you got your model years from, but you're mistaken slightly.

TR went from '93-'04, took a break from '05-'09, and because of the intense explosion in the Corvette community, came back in '10.
In Model Years 1999 through 2004 GM had changed the paint codes applied to Corvette. From 1993 through '98 and 2010 to present GM had applied paint code WA9075 (Torch Red) to Corvette. However, from 1999 through 2004 MY paint code WA7753 was applied to the Corvette. Now, wouldn't that suggest a discernibly different paint hue/color was used during those interim years?

In regards to your "intense explosion in the Corvette community" comment, wasn't that period of "explosion" attributed more so to the 2008 post economic recovery? Healthy economic conditions appear to be the primary driver of markets. Seems today's economy is more in line with the economy we saw during 2008 recession/crash more so than what we experienced during the subsequent recovery.
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Originally Posted by MMD
In Model Years 1999 through 2004 GM had changed the paint codes applied to Corvette. From 1993 through '98 and 2010 to present GM had applied paint code WA9075 (Torch Red) to Corvette. However, from 1999 through 2004 MY paint code WA7753 was applied to the Corvette. Now, wouldn't that suggest a discernibly different paint hue/color was used during those interim years?
You can keep digging, and keep trying, but no matter what you come up with, you're still wrong. Yes, it had a different paint code. And it may have looked slightly different. But it was still called "Torch Red" and still had the orange hue to it. Seriously man, give it up. Accept that you're wrong and move on.

In regards to your "intense explosion in the Corvette community" comment, wasn't that period of "explosion" attributed more so to the 2008 post economic recovery?
That had absolutely nothing to do with the response from the Corvette community over the loss of Torch Red. Nothing at all. Where the hell are you digging this crap up from? There was a noteworthy and vociferous response from the Corvette community when the C6 was debuted without the expected Torch Red color. Lots of complaints, bitching, carrying on like someone's dog got shot, etc. GM noticed it. They heard the message loud and clear. It just took them five MY to un-fornicate their decision.

Give it up man. Really. If they ever replace Torch Red, it'll be with another no-charge, non-metallic, orange-faking-it-as-red color. This Red Mist ain't that.

As you were.
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Originally Posted by MMD
Torch Red has only been found on Corvettes from 1993-1998 and then 2010 to present. How long has Corvette been around?
Originally Posted by jvp
I'm not sure where you got your model years from, but you're mistaken slightly.

TR went from '93-'04, took a break from '05-'09, and because of the intense explosion in the Corvette community, came back in '10.
An update.


http://www.c6registry.com/writers/redc6/index.htm


2005 C6 in TR at the NCM
On June 25, 2004 this one and only C6 was painted C5 Torch Red (1G1YY24U855100273) by the factory and shipped to Detroit for color evaluation.


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Originally Posted by jvp
You can keep digging, and keep trying, but no matter what you come up with, you're still wrong. Yes, it had a different paint code. And it may have looked slightly different. But it was still called "Torch Red" and still had the orange hue to it. Seriously man, give it up. Accept that you're wrong and move on.



That had absolutely nothing to do with the response from the Corvette community over the loss of Torch Red. Nothing at all. Where the hell are you digging this crap up from? There was a noteworthy and vociferous response from the Corvette community when the C6 was debuted without the expected Torch Red color. Lots of complaints, bitching, carrying on like someone's dog got shot, etc. GM noticed it. They heard the message loud and clear. It just took them five MY to un-fornicate their decision.

Give it up man. Really. If they ever replace Torch Red, it'll be with another no-charge, non-metallic, orange-faking-it-as-red color. This Red Mist ain't that.

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Originally Posted by MMD
A man who does not believe in facts. You'll go far with GM.

“Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future.” —John F. Kennedy
You're flat out wrong on Torch Red... move along.
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Back to the Red Mist discussion, I’m still curious as to how the adrenaline red seats will look with it. I’m sure the Morello dipped would look OK, I am just not too crazy about all of that Morello. With the LBR exterior, the adrenaline red seats are a $590 color combo override charge, so GM doesn’t think those 2 colors go together very well. Mike Furman posted the pic below of a delivery, the colors look OK together to me. I especially like the 2-tone adrenaline red and black seats with the adrenaline red interior.

I was planning on the 2-tone Tension blue with ELB exterior, but I’m not so sure after seeing this second picture.

So now I don’t no what to order, it would be nice to see a Red Mist car before my order has to be submitted, probably second consensus for 2021s. Decisions, decisions!
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^^^ due to the lighting in the photo, much of the LBR looks brighter than real life. The area around the door sill is much more accurate.
Black with two-tone red seats would be better as the amount of red would be reduced.

I'd be ok with the ELB and two-tone interior.
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Old Jul 13, 2020 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
May have changed but where I thought it was an extra tinted clear coat, in 2008 when I ordered a C6, GM said they had to remove one existing tintcoat because were adding a Blue tinticoat. So they picked the color least affected which was Atomic Orange. Since I ordered early in the model year all I had seen was the 2007 Atomic Orange tintcoat and was not taking a chance so ordered Velocity Yellow tintcoat.

A Forum moderator corrected my assumption in a post that it was an extra time for the paint coat or they must not have had another paint robot in the line for the 3rd coat. He said the extra cost was because they had to clean the clear color robot and install tinted clear then clean again. That is my understanding of what my C7 Crystal Red Metallic tintcoat was, a tinted single clear coat. Differing costs for various GM cars for the same color was based on the cost of doing that on those lines. He said the limit on number was the extra time they could tolerate in the paint line at the time and not reduce production speed. He had been through the paint line at the time so I'm assuming he was correct. Perhaps it's changed on the new paint line.

Paint can cost more particularly the metallic colors. My Street Rod paint, for example has two sizes of aluminum flake. Pearl, which one post said "Red Mist" was the same number as as dark red one called Tactical Pearl 1 (See pic below.) Pearl paint is made with iridescent mica. ChromaFlair is a pigment that changes color as you move around the car in the same light. It can cost >$10,000 just for the paint. Here is a quote: an ultra-exclusive Porsche Chromaflair paint job costs roughly $100,000. In that case it's more that the paint!

Yep there are more expensive paints!

Are there any cars currently in the GM lineup using GPH?
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Good question. Quick search did not find any nor does this article, only says a GM 2021 color.

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OK thanks
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I feel bad for anyone who bought a LBR 2020.
I feel bad for anyone that bought a little baby blue 2020
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I feel bad for anyone that bought a little baby blue 2020
Why? It’s stunning.



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Why? It’s stunning.


Great color for Hot Wheels!
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Yep works for small cute "things!" The C8 is longer than my 2017 Grand Sport and almost as wide. Wider than my 2014 Z51!


Not So Cute When They Get Big!

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I haven't seen anybody talk about this but the Red Mist Tintcoat is actually shown on the Chevrolet.com website under corvette and then near the bottom. https://www.chevrolet.com/performance/corvette Sorry if this is old news. -MellowSid



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Should match the edge red.

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I haven't seen anybody talk about this but the Red Mist Tintcoat is actually shown on the Chevrolet.com website under corvette and then near the bottom. https://www.chevrolet.com/performance/corvette Sorry if this is old news. -MellowSid


There are as many renderings of the new color as there are posts. None are actual pictures of a car painted with the color, just photoshopped, "color adjusted". Even the car and the"color chip" in your post are different. The color issued at the recent "virtual bash" by Tadge and others was much more orange that what the marketing people have been issuing. There is even a "picture" of the new silver in a "2021 brochure", but it is the 2020 brochure silver color adjusted, as the shadows in the ocean waves are in the same place in both "pictures". The red mist may by like the AY, you need to see it to know what it really is..
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