You have to use Apple CarPlay or Android Auto.

 

Never hind, misread the post.

 

Fully agree. They are mutually exclusive

 

https://gmnavdisc.navigation.com/home/en_US/GMNA/USD
They usually run a sale for $99 later in the year.

 

Without OnStar you loose real time traffic updates and points of interest. If you live in a congested area the real time traffic updates is important.

 

My Onstar trial ended and now when I push the nav icon I get an invitation to sign up for "connected nav" if I proceed it takes me to a terms and condition screen that if I don't accept takes me back to the beginning.
I want the basic (not connected) car navigation to work. A number of folks posted that you do not need Onstar for the basic (non-connected) car nav to work. How exactly do I achieve that?

 

I have a friend with the same problem. We hit the OnStar button and asked them to hook us up with the free version that I have in my C8, They hemmed and hawed then made it work, but said it was just a 30 trial. When I runs out he'll ask again for the free....

So, Hit the OnStar and talk to them. don't give a credit card but tell them your buddy gets is free and that's the version you want..... Good Luck.

 

Wow. That did not happen to me. 2021 delivered in June 2021. I never used the On-Star navigation. I never activated my trial subscription, although I think the dealer may have. Either way, I have never pushed the On-Star button in the car. I am under the impression that the built in Nav was, and is always there. I would not have viewed it as a "free" version of something On-Star provides. Rather, it is a capability that included with the car, and built in to the car. The built in Nav uses the built in GPS to determine where you are, then it uses the maps on the SD card delivered with the car to determine the route and guide you. The map information is stored on an SD card in the car. Map updates are available , but I did not think that those updates were delivered by On-Star ( I am aware that if you use On-Star nav, it does down load maps to support the active drive, but I do not believe it affects the maps that are on the SD car delivered with the car.) I would contact On-Star and tell them I want no subscription On-Star services, I want to use the built in Nav system in the car - not some free thing that On-Star provides. Of course you need a 2LT or 3LT to have the built in Nav or Nav option with 1LT.

 

RPO IOT is available to order on the 1LT and that provides the Nav.
IOT is included on 2LT and 3LT and available at extra cost on 1LT.

Ordering IOT on a 1LT also gets you the PDR:
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I found this in the owners manual.
Navigation requires a specific OnStar or connected service plan. All the folks that say you don't need Onstar for the built in navigation are correct, however you do need some "connected service plan". When I push the NAV icon the screen is offering me a connected service plan. It is not Onstar it is called Telenav. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeleNav.
I speculate that folks that have NAV working without Onstar have enabled Telenav.
So to answer my own question of wanting the basic (not connected) car navigation to work. It appears that is not possible, based on what the manual says. To get the NAV to work it looks like I am forced to surrender my privacy and enable the Telenav.

 

Telenav is the navigation software, OnStar is not required for navigation except for live traffic events.

 

Maybe. But I have never heard of that, never enabled it, not subscribed to it. I found the statement in the manual (2021 for me). It is in the connected services section of the manual - and based on the fact that mine works fine without it - I believe that statement is specific to the connected services supported naviagtion, and not the on board navigation system. I found other statements in the description of the on board navigation system found in the infotainment section of the manual. I put some of them below. That statements imply that the on board Navigation system will work without connected services, but will not have access to the latest map data and some other "features".

Mention the data base for the on-board navigation system:




Mentions the embedded navigation map:



This says what will happen if you do not have an applicable service plan. It doe not say Navigation will not work - just that it will not have access to an updated data base. I will have a data base that was accurate at the time it was loaded into the car.



This introduces the Connected Navigation - which is different from the On Board Navigation system. But it will work the the on board system if you have both.


And finally, here is the statement you found that seems to say Navigation requires a connected service. As far as I know, no one before reported getting that message about Telenav. I am in no way disputing that you get the message - and I will continue to follow this discussion - but as of now, I continue to believe that no subscription to any service is required for the On-Board navigation system to work.

 

Google Maps and Waze via CarPlay are connected navigation systems based upon everyone else using the system at any given moment. They are also free.

They are generally a better source of real-time info because they almost always have a much larger database of connected users.

 

@Andybump is correct, use of the onboard navigation system is explained under the "Infotainment System" part of the manual and should not be confused with "Connected Services".

 

Yes, but you can get their App Access package for $15 per month to get that back. Hint: It's in the "A La Carte and Add-ons" section of their website. It also gets you a bunch of other apps in the infotainment system such as Spotify, WSJ, Weather Channel, Pandora, Alexa, etc. No data plan needed. It basically brings the infotainment system into the 21st century.

 

Reply to Andybump
Everything you say makes sense.
Before my onstar trial period ended when I touched the NAV icon I would get a map and location and it worked as expected.
After my trial period ended when I touch the NAV icon I get the Telenet privacy agreement.
I will get some pictures and post them.

 

An OnStar paid subscription is not required for the onboard navigation to work. I had the OnStar free trial and then let it expire. However, I was using the onboard navigation before it expired. I don't remember what steps I did but navigation still works fine without any paid subscription plans. I may have accepted a Telenet agreement, I don't remember. It could be required to use the Telenet database, similar to how you have to accept an agreement when you install software on your computer.
OnStar provides the support for the infotainment system. When I had called GM customer service with some audio questions I was transferred to the OnStar team even though I no longer had a paid subscription. I'd call OnStar support and see if they can correct the problem.

 

In the meantime I have been reviewing the owners and service manual. No mention of telenav in the service manual. Telenav is mentioned in the owners manual and it does appear that it is software, and in the menu you may be able to see the version number. I beleive it to be local, though not a subscription. There is info about creating a user profile - in the manual - I believe that to be local as well. Is the window you get asking you to subscribe to a service, or is it asking you to create a profile. Perhaps it is your fist use of the on board nav system ?? and it requires a profile. I must admit I don't recall creating a profile for that, but my dealer may have done during the delivery walk thru. I'm going to check mine to see if I have a user profile.

This seems to discuss User Profiles. Its not clear to me that a profile is required though.



This below is the only mention of Telenav - it appears to be referring to software.

 

OK, I think I may have figured this out. In my previous post, I said I would check to see if I ever created a profile. I checked that. I looked under the user tab in the menu and it showed the option to create profiles. It showed no existing profiles and it appeared that I never created one. But it did invite me to "log in" to a profile. So I did that. As an aside, a long time ago, I did create an account with the MyChevrolet web site from my lap top - not the car. This will be relevant to what happened next. From the car, today, I went ahead and "logged in" using the email and password I had set up from my lap top a long time ago. It accepted all that and now I was logged in. I dont really know if I created a profile or just logged in to one, but doesnt matter. Guess what happened next??!!! When I went back and tried use Nav, I got the display you have been talking about - wanting me to "get started" with connected service. SOB! It took me awhile fooling with the User Profiles, but I was able to find, and delete, the profile that I apparently created from the car today. After that, the on board Nav went back to working the way it was. Soooooo......look under the User tab in the main menu - you have to swipe left to get to the user tab that is on the far right (on mine). See if you can locate your profile - and delete it. It took me a while, but eventually I found a list of profiles, with the traditional little garbage can option - hit that - and all was well. If you were previously using the OnStar Connected Navigation in the car, you probably had an active profile in there for that. I notice too that says it will log you in using the key - but if you delete it, like I did, it wont matter.

Hope this works for you.

 

I have a user profile (I forget why I created it but there was a reason) but my nav works without a paid subscription so there is a way around it.