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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 10:05 AM
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Hi, I picked up my HTC 2LT on saturday & Dealer set up Onstar trial for 1 month.
If I dont want to pay the $30ish per month can I still use my navigation, or do I have to have Onstar for the NAV to work?.
Thanks in advance. Cliff
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 10:10 AM
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I am not sure I even want to talk to you I am so jealous, my HTC still sitting at 3000 with a museum guess of a TPW 11/16

but anyway I am hoping that using your phone google maps or other connected through Apple play will allow on screen navigation. based on other cars with apple Play
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If Nav came with the cars package I would say Onstar is not needed. That has never been a requirement in the past.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 10:13 AM
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I am not sure I even want to talk to you I am so jealous, my HTC still sitting at 3000 with a museum guess of a TPW 11/16

but anyway I am hoping that using your phone google maps or other connected through Apple play will allow on screen navigation. based on other cars with apple Play
Hey, dont be like that :-) I see that you are in Florida. I live in Clearwater. if you want to drive over hear I will take you out for a spin & show you what you have to look forward to.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 10:15 AM
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If Nav came with the cars package I would say Onstar is not needed. That has never been a requirement in the past.
Its a 2LT, so I assume it comes with NAV?
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigredwing
If Nav came with the cars package I would say Onstar is not needed. That has never been a requirement in the past.
This your in car NAV should still work fine. You obviously would lose the Onstar turn by turn feature, but it seems silly to pay $30 a month for these types of services. You can also use Apple Carplay or Android Auto for Googlemaps and or Apple Maps.

Honestly I much prefer AppleCarplay and GoogleMaps for navigation in my car.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 10:26 AM
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Well now after looking at the build site I don't know. It says something about a "Connected navigation system". I guess somebody else will have to reply. Sorry...

CHEVROLET INFOTAINMENT 3 PREMIUM SYSTEM WITH NAVIGATION AND 8" DIAGONAL HD COLOR TOUCHSCREEN
  • Connected navigation system1 with enhanced voice recognition
  • 8" diagonal HD color touchscreen2
  • Bluetooth®3 audio streaming for 2 active devices for compatible phones
  • In-vehicle apps capable with additional memory
  • Cloud4 connected personalization for select infotainment and vehicle settings
  • Wireless Apple CarPlay™ capability for compatible phones5
  • Wireless Android Auto™ capability for compatible phones6

1 Connected Navigation and real-time points of interest only available on properly equipped vehicles. Requires paid plan or trial. Map coverage available in U.S., Puerto Rico and Canada. See onstar.com for details and limitations.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by C8 Vet Convertible
Hi, I picked up my HTC 2LT on saturday & Dealer set up Onstar trial for 1 month.
If I dont want to pay the $30ish per month can I still use my navigation, or do I have to have Onstar for the NAV to work?.
Thanks in advance. Cliff
Yep, but for the 30 day "trial' where you have OnStar when you press the NAV Icon it reverts to OnStar! Thankfully that goes away when OnStar finally tells you the trial is gone!

Have not used it much and found it was easy to use voice command and tell it where I wanted to go!

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Your NAV system does not need OnStar.
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Originally Posted by C8 Vet Convertible
Hi, I picked up my HTC 2LT on saturday & Dealer set up Onstar trial for 1 month.
If I dont want to pay the $30ish per month can I still use my navigation, or do I have to have Onstar for the NAV to work?.
Thanks in advance. Cliff
Be careful, if you gave them a cc number you will be getting billed automatically after the free trial. Set a reminder to cancel if you do not want the service.
Nav works fine without onstar.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sprta
Be careful, if you gave them a cc number you will be getting billed automatically after the free trial. Set a reminder to cancel if you do not want the service.
Nav works fine without onstar.
I definately did not give them a CC :-)
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 11:51 AM
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GM go to great lengths in implying that OnStar is almost an essential, sailing verry close to being deceptive.

It is NOT needed for NAV. It is not needed for OTA updates either.
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With CarPlay loaded with Waze and Google Maps, the in-car nav is essentially worthless and inferior in my view. The only reason for having it is that it includes the PDR, which you can't get otherwise. I've never used in the installed navs in any of our 4 vehicles because they all are equipped with CarPlay.

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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bikerjulio
GM go to great lengths in implying that OnStar is almost an essential, sailing verry close to being deceptive.

It is NOT needed for NAV. It is not needed for OTA updates either.
Can I still get PDR without Onstar?.
Thanks in advance
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Can I still get PDR without Onstar?.
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Yes, PDR is not dependent on an OnStar subscription.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by thill444
Yes, PDR is not dependent on an OnStar subscription.
Thanks so much for the excellent help & advice. Do you have Onstar?
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by C8 Vet Convertible
Can I still get PDR without Onstar?.
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Not sure if this is serious, but yes of course you can get the PDR without OnStar.

Incidentally, GM is still monitoring your car even without a subscription and will send alerts via email or text if it notices anything wrong.

I do not have a subscription.

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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bikerjulio
Not sure if this is serious, but yes of course you can get the PDR without OnStar.

Incidentally, GM is still monitoring your car even without a subscription and will send alerts via email or text if it notices anything wrong.

I do not have a subscription.
Hi, Yes it is a serious question because I was genuinely concerned if I could get Nav without a subscription, so i wondered if any other functions could be restricted/available
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 02:49 PM
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The only other system that has a restriction is the wifi...the salesman should have explained that you get 3gig of 4g or one month which ever comes first... this is a separate system from onstar. the best part of both these systems is that you can buy one month at a time, no contract needed. If you are planning a trip say through the tail of the dragon, you can buy one month of onstar and one month of wifi...full service onstar is 35.00 and wifi is 20.00 a month for unlimited gigs. really not worth it if the car is sitting in the garage 6 days a week..on a side note the carplay nav is better then the factory as you can use waze...after about 3years GM will try to sell an update to your in car nav for about 300.00. wouldn't surprise me if in car nav goes the way of the cd player in future units.
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If you have factory Nav, no OnStar is needed. Save the $30/month.
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