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Might want to look again..... The C7 Z51(2:53.8) was never close to the 2017 911 turbo S(2:46.8) or 458(2:49.9)for that matter(which the C82:49.0 beat). It was close to the Carrera which is usually what the base vette is in the ball park since that's the base 911. The Turbo S and the Z06 are the comparable models.
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I'm referring to years released; the 2014 C7 that was in the 2014 lightening lap had times within 2-3 seconds of the 2014 911T and 2014 Ferrari F12 that was tested at the same event. This year the C8 is 7 seconds off this years 911T on similar rubber. Corvette has advanced, but the leaps most of the competition has taken is even greater.
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I put a dupe by mistake earlier, but the C8 beat the 718 GT4. That's its mission folks, and it accomplished that. Its not going to beat the Careers S, but it isn't that far off either. This test proves why the new GT4 RS coming out wouldn't be a smart purchase against C8 variants. For you Mustang fans the Camaro ZL11le times are not that far off, and you can't buy a GT500 track pack for the price of the upcoming Z06. To each his own, but I don't consider the GT500 a deal when a exhaust pipe and upper pulley on a supercharger make the ZL11le a better track car for cheaper still.
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I put a dupe by mistake earlier, but the C8 beat the 718 GT4. That's its mission folks, and it accomplished that. Its not going to beat the Careers S, but it isn't that far off either. This test proves why the new GT4 RS coming out wouldn't be a smart purchase against C8 variants. For you Mustang fans the Camaro ZL11le times are not that far off, and you can't buy a GT500 track pack for the price of the upcoming Z06. To each his own, but I don't consider the GT500 a deal when a exhaust pipe and upper pulley on a supercharger make the ZL11le a better track car for cheaper still.
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Maybe not but the 2017 C7 Grand Sport (2:47.1) certainly was and was definitely 2+ seconds faster than the 458. One wonders what a C8 Grand Sport will be like.
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I put a dupe by mistake earlier, but the C8 beat the 718 GT4. That's its mission folks, and it accomplished that. Its not going to beat the Careers S, but it isn't that far off either. This test proves why the new GT4 RS coming out wouldn't be a smart purchase against C8 variants. For you Mustang fans the Camaro ZL11le times are not that far off, and you can't buy a GT500 track pack for the price of the upcoming Z06. To each his own, but I don't consider the GT500 a deal when a exhaust pipe and upper pulley on a supercharger make the ZL11le a better track car for cheaper still.
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C8Z will run with a C7ZR. No doubt.
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C8 still performing the same way all things relative to what has been announced from the beginning. Faster than the C7 Z51 but slower than a C7GS.
What I don't see are the post Jim Mero calibration changes made for C7sfat every level in these tests? The 19s were all significantly quicker than the older versions. Just look at the C7 Z06 difference for an example at VIR. I believe it was 1.5 seconds or more on the grand course? Have to believe a GS would be a second quicker than the 2017s time as well.
And please stop with the tire debate. If your taking things used on previous cars to make the new car better? Flip it and do the same. The point (as made to us over and over) was ME dominates FE on track.... maybe in 7 8 900hp cars.. but at that 500 level it don't. As evidenced by the C7 GS. (In relation to a corvette)
Looking forward to a 700hp C8 Z06 and seeing what ME at that level can do vs a C7 ZR.
What I don't see are the post Jim Mero calibration changes made for C7sfat every level in these tests? The 19s were all significantly quicker than the older versions. Just look at the C7 Z06 difference for an example at VIR. I believe it was 1.5 seconds or more on the grand course? Have to believe a GS would be a second quicker than the 2017s time as well.
And please stop with the tire debate. If your taking things used on previous cars to make the new car better? Flip it and do the same. The point (as made to us over and over) was ME dominates FE on track.... maybe in 7 8 900hp cars.. but at that 500 level it don't. As evidenced by the C7 GS. (In relation to a corvette)
Looking forward to a 700hp C8 Z06 and seeing what ME at that level can do vs a C7 ZR.
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C8 still performing the same way all things relative to what has been announced from the beginning. Faster than the C7 Z51 but slower than a C7GS.
What I don't see are the post Jim Mero calibration changes made for C7sfat every level in these tests? The 19s were all significantly quicker than the older versions. Just look at the C7 Z06 difference for an example at VIR. I believe it was 1.5 seconds or more on the grand course? Have to believe a GS would be a second quicker than the 2017s time as well.
And please stop with the tire debate. If your taking things used on previous cars to make the new car better? Flip it and do the same. The point (as made to us over and over) was ME dominates FE on track.... maybe in 7 8 900hp cars.. but at that 500 level it don't. As evidenced by the C7 GS. (In relation to a corvette)
Looking forward to a 700hp C8 Z06 and seeing what ME at that level can do vs a C7 ZR.
What I don't see are the post Jim Mero calibration changes made for C7sfat every level in these tests? The 19s were all significantly quicker than the older versions. Just look at the C7 Z06 difference for an example at VIR. I believe it was 1.5 seconds or more on the grand course? Have to believe a GS would be a second quicker than the 2017s time as well.
And please stop with the tire debate. If your taking things used on previous cars to make the new car better? Flip it and do the same. The point (as made to us over and over) was ME dominates FE on track.... maybe in 7 8 900hp cars.. but at that 500 level it don't. As evidenced by the C7 GS. (In relation to a corvette)
Looking forward to a 700hp C8 Z06 and seeing what ME at that level can do vs a C7 ZR.
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C8 z51 was 4 seconds faster than the c7 z51. Surprisingly the c7 grand sport with the 275/30/19 on 9.5 inch front rims and 325/25/20 on 12 inch rims with michelin cup 2 tires...ran 2.47.1 times..
if someone threw mrr 9.5 front and 12 inch rear rims with identical michelin cup 2 tires on the c8 z51 maybe that would shave 7 seconds off its time of 2.49 to 2.42....
even if that 7 second trim is to large...lets cap it at 4 seconds...
2.45lap times
we will never know but it sure would be interesting to find out.
if someone threw mrr 9.5 front and 12 inch rear rims with identical michelin cup 2 tires on the c8 z51 maybe that would shave 7 seconds off its time of 2.49 to 2.42....
even if that 7 second trim is to large...lets cap it at 4 seconds...
2.45lap times
we will never know but it sure would be interesting to find out.
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C8 z51 was 4 seconds faster than the c7 z51. Surprisingly the c7 grand sport with the 275/30/19 on 9.5 inch front rims and 325/25/20 on 12 inch rims with michelin cup 2 tires...ran 2.47.1 times..
if someone threw mrr 9.5 front and 12 inch rear rims with identical michelin cup 2 tires on the c8 z51 maybe that would shave 7 seconds off its time of 2.49 to 2.42....
even if that 7 second trim is to large...lets cap it at 4 seconds...
2.45lap times
we will never know but it sure would be interesting to find out.
if someone threw mrr 9.5 front and 12 inch rear rims with identical michelin cup 2 tires on the c8 z51 maybe that would shave 7 seconds off its time of 2.49 to 2.42....
even if that 7 second trim is to large...lets cap it at 4 seconds...
2.45lap times
we will never know but it sure would be interesting to find out.
I’m most impressed with the 911 turbo S being as fast as it was on inferior tires, would like to see what it could do on some gumball Cup2Rs.
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C8 z51 was 4 seconds faster than the c7 z51. Surprisingly the c7 grand sport with the 275/30/19 on 9.5 inch front rims and 325/25/20 on 12 inch rims with michelin cup 2 tires...ran 2.47.1 times..
if someone threw mrr 9.5 front and 12 inch rear rims with identical michelin cup 2 tires on the c8 z51 maybe that would shave 7 seconds off its time of 2.49 to 2.42....
even if that 7 second trim is to large...lets cap it at 4 seconds...
2.45lap times
we will never know but it sure would be interesting to find out.
if someone threw mrr 9.5 front and 12 inch rear rims with identical michelin cup 2 tires on the c8 z51 maybe that would shave 7 seconds off its time of 2.49 to 2.42....
even if that 7 second trim is to large...lets cap it at 4 seconds...
2.45lap times
we will never know but it sure would be interesting to find out.
What would be more interesting would be to find the track times (and expert impressions) in regular street alignments, as that's how the vast majority of us drive our cars vs. the all cocked-out camber and caster settings of track alignments.
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Did any of us Corvette fans notice the C7 ZR1 beat out this years winner and the 2nd place Porsche turbo?
Yea the 755hp 3100lb mid engine Mac 765LT was slower than the last gen ZR1. LOL.
SHHHH don't tell anyone. its really not worthy news....LOL.
Yea the 755hp 3100lb mid engine Mac 765LT was slower than the last gen ZR1. LOL.
SHHHH don't tell anyone. its really not worthy news....LOL.
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First of all the 285s would never fit on the front of a C8, nevermind what it would do to the balance of the car. Plus GSs have been tested without the cup2s and still showed lateral g limits in a different league vs. a C8, so I wouldn't make the jumps you're making.
What would be more interesting would be to find the track times (and expert impressions) in regular street alignments, as that's how the vast majority of us drive our cars vs. the all cocked-out camber and caster settings of track alignments.
What would be more interesting would be to find the track times (and expert impressions) in regular street alignments, as that's how the vast majority of us drive our cars vs. the all cocked-out camber and caster settings of track alignments.
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