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I looked and looked and wondered how come the truck driver didn't feel the car as he rolled his front tire over it as he drove out. But after further examination and cogitation I think he pulled out, not knowing or seeing the car, and turned too sharply and swung running board along the top of the fender until right before hit tire and the truck went slightly over the fender. There was still no resistance to his forward progress except some -to him undetermined- noise, then the rear tire mad contact, And the OH **** moment.
Those are the most oversized spots I've seen. I'd say both are at fault. C8 guy should have looked and make sure he centered his car. and the truck guy could have found another spot elsewhere.
It never fails. Just when I think the internet can’t get any more stupid someone opens the floodgates and engulfs us all in a maelstrom of stupid.
Agree. Truck guy screwed up but no way he did that on purpose.
sure... let me do this on purpose in the middle of the day at a busy shopping center & then stop to let folks take pictures.
seems intentional to me
Originally Posted by Fast Dawg
That model was made in 2008-2009. It's a F250 and could have a rear vision camera on it, but no back up sensors. It's not lifted much if at all over factory specs.
The driver of that truck had no business being in that parking space. That truck has too wide of a turning radius to negotiate the turns necessary to park there. I own a 2020 2500HD and don't even try to park in spots like those. I park at the end of the lot so I have enough room to turn my truck if someone parks near me.
considering Ford didn't start putting the vertical F-xxx badges on the doors' leading edges until 2017, it's at least that new. rear bumper has a back-up sensor plain as the nose on your face, and all 2018+ passenger vehicles have mandatory backup cameras meaning this truck likely does. stock height also had the tops of the tires about level with the uppermost body line on the doors - not 3-4" below that line like on this truck.
i still agree it was most-likely pulling out when this happened, but a competent driver could've easily maneuvered a dually in & out of those spaces with how wide they are & how much room was ahead. trust me; i not only used to park the Chevy dealer's lot in high school, but i grew up driving a Suburban & Excursion and now DD a 4door 2500 Dodge... this was just a not-paying-attention moment.
Originally Posted by papillion
The other day in the Wally World parking lot, a huge Ram 3500 dualie with a 5th wheel plate was trying to park in a close to the door spot. I watched from a distance as he rocked back and forth to try an squeeze the beast in. He was trying to back in as well, must be a common affliction. Finally gave up and pulled away. I tracked him to make sure I was not in harm's way. In the North 40. Folks with these monster trucks buy in over their heads. Make zip sense.
Originally Posted by Fast Dawg
Did you know that transportation companies teach all of their drivers to back first? It's a proven fact that having a wide field of vision is more important when you're pulling out of a parking space than it is when you are pulling in. It reduces the chance of accidents.
it's also much easier to park a long wheelbase vehicle (or one with a wide radius... like my C5 compared to my 2door GMC) by backing into the spot. nosing in often takes a 3point turn & you're blind when backing out.
Actullay, the C8 was over the white line space divider and got dragged a couple of feet back into his own space. Even so it is still angled toward the truck's space. As the truck got hung up it sharpened his turn to look as though he started out too sharply turned. Case solved.
So what you are saying is the C8 was trying to park by driving under the truck and the frunk popped open dragging the truck over the C8. However the C8 owner thought: good enough so left. I wonder if they put a note on the windshield because I dont see one.
I really wonder what that sign behind the parking spots says. Please share parking spots?
I can relate to this! I sure Can. Had a new 2015 Dodge Viper and a semi truck trailer went right over me. The car crashes good I am alive! What I am saying is I hope no one was hurt. There is a lot more C8's out there than a Viper. Only one thing worse than a parking space issue is the dealer dropping it off a lift.
Last edited by George D.; Dec 6, 2021 at 06:59 PM.
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The C8 was properly parked in the space it occupied. Notice that the right rear tire is against a wheel chock and the left is properly aligned to the chock behind it. The reason the left isn't against the chock is because the truck dragged it away. There is no parking block or chocks in the space next to the C8 that the truck was in and possibly was not even a valid parking space. Truck driver is totally at fault here. I back in as much as possible as my air dams are hanging in tatters now from hitting parking blocks.
The C8 was properly parked in the space it occupied. Notice that the right rear tire is against a wheel chock and the left is properly aligned to the chock behind it. The reason the left isn't against the chock is because the truck dragged it away. There is no parking block or chocks in the space next to the C8 that the truck was in and possibly was not even a valid parking space. Truck driver is totally at fault here. I back in as much as possible as my air dams are hanging in tatters now from hitting parking blocks.
I bet he was pulling out of the space. I've been driving Super Duty trucks for 30 years as daily drivers. I always swing very wide to avoid exactly this senario. The funny thing is that about 10 years ago a lady in a 27' Budget Truck did exactly this to my 08 F350 King Ranch. New hood fender and grill. Here is the aftermath...
She was parked next to me and had just re-rented the truck from us, she backed in no problem. On the video the box rail was on top of the corner.
Did you know that transportation companies teach all of their drivers to back first? It's a proven fact that having a wide field of vision is more important when you're pulling out of a parking space than it is when you are pulling in. It reduces the chance of accidents.
Some do, but most don’t. UPS drivers are specifically prohibited from ever backing up unless it is necessarily backing up into a loading dock. The famous Smith Truck Driving System teaches drivers to park on a nearby street or to use pull through parking spaces in public parking lots whenever possible, in which case it might sometimes look like some drivers backed in but they actually likely pulled through to avoid having to back up when arriving and departing. Smith also teaches drivers to use “GOAL” … Get out and look … anytime they don’t have complete situational awareness and visual orientation of obstructions and hazards. This bubba was not a professional truck driver by any stretch of the imagination.
There were probably a number of pull through spaces available but Bubba likes to impress other people and himself with his backing up skills and park his big oversized truck as close to the business front door as possible. Besides, finding and using that pull through space might have meant walking an extra 100 feet to the store.
Bottom line, Bubba shouldn’t have parked there and Bubba either should have used the GOAL system for pulling out or instead used the “space rules”, meaning he should have assumed that obstructions he couldn’t see were parked adjacent to him and that when pulling out he could not turn the steering wheel until his truck was completely clear and beyond any possible unseen adjacent vehicle.
But then Bubba didn’t do any of those safe things did he?
Bubba buys a truck. Bubba jacks it up so high it presents any number of potential dangers to other vehicles. Bubba always backs in because it’s just what all the other Bubbas do. Bubba thinks he is cool. Darwin and Murphy love the way Bubbas constantly revalidate their theorems.
Bubba also lifted his truck/Jeep eliminating the "factory rake" and never re-adjusted headlights blinding everyone on the road at night.
Those are the most oversized spots I've seen. I'd say both are at fault. C8 guy should have looked and make sure he centered his car. and the truck guy could have found another spot elsewhere.
Are you the owner of the truck? Cause what…… hey your in your spot but close to the line? So I can run you over…… wow
C8 backed in previously too close to space on driver's left. Truck then proceeds out to the right later, does not see the car because of height. Fault of both. Stuff happens.
C8 driver was not out of the occupied parking space. Truck hit the C8. Truck driver's fault. End of story. C8 driver not at fault.
Some do, but most don’t. UPS drivers are specifically prohibited from ever backing up unless it is necessarily backing up into a loading dock. The famous Smith Truck Driving System teaches drivers to park on a nearby street or to use pull through parking spaces in public parking lots whenever possible, in which case it might sometimes look like some drivers backed in but they actually likely pulled through to avoid having to back up when arriving and departing. Smith also teaches drivers to use “GOAL” … Get out and look … anytime they don’t have complete situational awareness and visual orientation of obstructions and hazards. This bubba was not a professional truck driver by any stretch of the imagination.
Um, I worked for UPS from 1979-2014. I used to pre-qualify delivery drivers before they could go to driver orientation and deliver their first package. Later in my career I had managers reporting to me whose responsibility was either running driver orientations or employee safety which included vehicle safety. I’m very well versed in the Smith system.
UPS does not specifically prohibit drivers from ever backing up. In fact, we encourage it for the very reason I posted earlier - it gives you a broader range of vision when pulling away from wherever you are parked. If you knew anything about UPS you would know that when you pull into the employee parking lot at one of our delivery centers, the majority of the employee’s personal cars/trucks are backed into their parking space.
You can tell one of your “cute” Bubba stories, but make sure you know what you’re talking about first, and I never said the guy in this truck was a professional driver.
Last edited by Fast Dawg; Dec 8, 2021 at 06:52 AM.
Agree. Truck guy screwed up but no way he did that on purpose.
Unless the truck guy had a personal beef with the C8 guy I can't imagine why he would do this on purpose.
His truck is damaged and who knows what his insurance carrier will do.