Soler Control
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From: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
Sorry but It absolutely effects shifting time because the shift is dependent on RPM and how the car gets to that RPM is all about pedal position. My car absolutely shifts or should I say gets to the shift point sooner in Sport 5 or 6 because a much smaller pedal input gets the RPM there more quickly.
Now, if you are saying when you push the pedal 1/2 way down in Sport 5 or 6 compared to 1/2 down in OEM yes it will shift sooner because 1/2 down in Sport 5 is more throttle open than 1/2 down in OEM. OWM 1/2 down you get 50% throttle. In Sport 5-6 at 1/2 down you get 75%-80% throttle.
Safety Car
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From: Western WI
Now, if you are saying when you push the pedal 1/2 way down in Sport 5 or 6 compared to 1/2 down in OEM yes it will shift sooner because 1/2 down in Sport 5 is more throttle open than 1/2 down in OEM. OWM 1/2 down you get 50% throttle. In Sport 5-6 at 1/2 down you get 75%-80% throttle.
Race Director
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From: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
Yes, that's what I am talking about and why I clarified that it is not changing the shift points just how quickly the car responds due to increased sensitivity of the pedal and getting to those shift points with far less input required. I understand that some people pay little to no attention to what the car they are driving is doing, how it is responding or how it feels. Some just drive and really don't care. For those people this mod is going to do little or nothing, just as adding 10 or 20 more HP with mods is going to do little or nothing to the cars actual response and feel. For me, this is something that is instantly felt and noticed when driving it. 10 or 20HP? Not at all.
For those that feel the need for quicker throttle opening with less foot travel this works great. To say those that don't feel the need doesn't mean they don't care.
The way people drive it only takes a short time to learn how far you push the pedal to get the throttle response you want at any given time. For example if 2 are driving side by side, one with and one without Soler and they accelerate together at the same rate the OEM guy and the Soler guy will instinctively push the pedal as required to achieve that goal.
End of day. When we 1st install the Soler we are immediately wowed by the quicker throttle. However, in time we adapt instinctively to push the pedal as needed based on what we want to achieve. It becomes automatic the same as when it was OEM. Only when you go back to OEM or change the modes you notice.
It's a fun little gadget to fool around with none the less.
Enjoy
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Melting Slicks
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2022 C8 of the Year Finalist - Modified
I took my car over to my local wrap shop today for a little touch-up work. I set the controller back to OEM so the shop guys wouldn't accidentally have a problem. Wow, I forgot how much different the sport setting was from the OEM. Made me appreciate the Soler controller al over again.
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Sorry, but that's not accurate. Yes, 60% throttle is 60% throttle, but with the soler you reach 60% throttle with less pedal movement, so the DCT will downshift sooner, with less pedal movement. Before the Soler, I hated driving in D. With the Soler, D no longer feels like a penalty box.
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From: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
Here we go again.
Yes, it takes less pedal movement to get to 60%. So the time saved to push the pedal a fraction of an inch further than with OEM will get you to 60% throttle, and an earlier shift a fraction of a second sooner. Lol.
Yes, it takes less pedal movement to get to 60%. So the time saved to push the pedal a fraction of an inch further than with OEM will get you to 60% throttle, and an earlier shift a fraction of a second sooner. Lol.
Last edited by Vega$Vette; Aug 25, 2023 at 02:21 PM.
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From: Frisco, TX
Yeah this, which makes it way more fun to drive.
Racer
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From: Peoria, AZ
So we agree the Soler does not make the car shift any sooner than OEM.
For those that feel the need for quicker throttle opening with less foot travel this works great. To say those that don't feel the need doesn't mean they don't care.
The way people drive it only takes a short time to learn how far you push the pedal to get the throttle response you want at any given time. For example if 2 are driving side by side, one with and one without Soler and they accelerate together at the same rate the OEM guy and the Soler guy will instinctively push the pedal as required to achieve that goal.
End of day. When we 1st install the Soler we are immediately wowed by the quicker throttle. However, in time we adapt instinctively to push the pedal as needed based on what we want to achieve. It becomes automatic the same as when it was OEM. Only when you go back to OEM or change the modes you notice.
It's a fun little gadget to fool around with none the less.
Enjoy
For those that feel the need for quicker throttle opening with less foot travel this works great. To say those that don't feel the need doesn't mean they don't care.
The way people drive it only takes a short time to learn how far you push the pedal to get the throttle response you want at any given time. For example if 2 are driving side by side, one with and one without Soler and they accelerate together at the same rate the OEM guy and the Soler guy will instinctively push the pedal as required to achieve that goal.
End of day. When we 1st install the Soler we are immediately wowed by the quicker throttle. However, in time we adapt instinctively to push the pedal as needed based on what we want to achieve. It becomes automatic the same as when it was OEM. Only when you go back to OEM or change the modes you notice.
It's a fun little gadget to fool around with none the less.
Enjoy
Le Mans Master
Joined: Apr 2018
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From: Dove Mountain, AZ
2023 C8 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
I took my car over to my local wrap shop today for a little touch-up work. I set the controller back to OEM so the shop guys wouldn't accidentally have a problem. Wow, I forgot how much different the sport setting was from the OEM. Made me appreciate the Soler controller al over again.
When I dropped off my C8 for Service I set the controller back to OEM....After they were finished, I drove off and thought to myself that something didn't feel quite right until I quickly realized that I needed to set the controller back to Sport 4 which is my preferred pedal response...For myself, I simply find the OE pedal response / feel to be a bit too soft so I'm glad I have it installed...
Moderator
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From: Lakewood Ranch, FL
I had a similar experience recently....
When I dropped off my C8 for Service I set the controller back to OEM....After they were finished, I drove off and thought to myself that something didn't feel quite right until I quickly realized that I needed to set the controller back to Sport 4 which is my preferred pedal response...For myself, I simply find the OE pedal response / feel to be a bit too soft so I'm glad I have it installed...
When I dropped off my C8 for Service I set the controller back to OEM....After they were finished, I drove off and thought to myself that something didn't feel quite right until I quickly realized that I needed to set the controller back to Sport 4 which is my preferred pedal response...For myself, I simply find the OE pedal response / feel to be a bit too soft so I'm glad I have it installed...
Instructor
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My Soler unit has been sitting on my desk for the past two weeks as my car was awaiting its new transmission. Hopefully today the work will be completed. I sold my tuned 2020 Supra to get the C8. The only regret I have had is the fact that the Supra was MUCH faster. My goal with the Soler is to gain at least an illusion of better performance.
Le Mans Master
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From: Dove Mountain, AZ
2023 C8 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
My Soler unit has been sitting on my desk for the past two weeks as my car was awaiting its new transmission. Hopefully today the work will be completed. I sold my tuned 2020 Supra to get the C8. The only regret I have had is the fact that the Supra was MUCH faster. My goal with the Soler is to gain at least an illusion of better performance.
Instructor
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Mine was tuned for e50 so WHP was 500 and torque 600. The C8 is quicker 0-60 due to the fact that traction is so much better. It's the quarter to half throttle torque in traffic I miss. I'm pretty sure the Soler will fill that void.
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From: South Alabama
My Soler unit has been sitting on my desk for the past two weeks as my car was awaiting its new transmission. Hopefully today the work will be completed. I sold my tuned 2020 Supra to get the C8. The only regret I have had is the fact that the Supra was MUCH faster. My goal with the Soler is to gain at least an illusion of better performance.
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I just love how those who don't actually have one think they know more about how it works and feels than the hundreds who actually use one. The FEEL of the car, including how and when it shifts, is totally different. I'm sorry you don't get it, but you're simply wrong regardless of what you think.
Le Mans Master
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From: Dove Mountain, AZ
2023 C8 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
I just love how those who don't actually have one think they know more about how it works and feels than the hundreds who actually use one. The FEEL of the car, including how and when it shifts, is totally different. I'm sorry you don't get it, but you're simply wrong regardless of what you think.
It's really not important to me that others appreciate or understand what the throttle controller does or doesn't do...I'm extremely pleased I have one installed and as it appears, the vast majority of users are as well....
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From: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
I just love how those who don't actually have one think they know more about how it works and feels than the hundreds who actually use one. The FEEL of the car, including how and when it shifts, is totally different. I'm sorry you don't get it, but you're simply wrong regardless of what you think.
Even Mike from Soler does not dispute my analysis and explanations of exactly what it does and doesn’t do.