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Old Dec 8, 2024 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by peternj
blkgenius and mortelec are correct! on 2022 and earlier C8s nothing will work other than MDI2 and GSD2 software. I tried Launch X431 v49.82 and it could not communicate with the TCM module, message was that the module rejected the command input. The messaging is nicer but it is a communication error. I tried both the flush and leak test. wadejesu, I suspect Foxwell NT 510 Elite will not work either.

I will be looking into purchasing the MDI2 hardware tool and at 64 bucks for 3 days it is still more cost effective than a visit to the dealer. In essence GM is allowing DIYers to work on their cars.

Still looking for clarification if the VIN option needs to be purchased or not if you are using MDI2 and GSD2 subscription.
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Originally Posted by peternj
blkgenius and mortelec are correct! on 2022 and earlier C8s nothing will work other than MDI2 and GSD2 software. I tried Launch X431 v49.82 and it could not communicate with the TCM module, message was that the module rejected the command input. The messaging is nicer but it is a communication error. I tried both the flush and leak test. wadejesu, I suspect Foxwell NT 510 Elite will not work either.

I will be looking into purchasing the MDI2 hardware tool and at 64 bucks for 3 days it is still more cost effective than a visit to the dealer. In essence GM is allowing DIYers to work on their cars.

Still looking for clarification if the VIN option needs to be purchased or not if you are using MDI2 and GSD2 subscription.
The flush procedure is not a requirement. Don't overthink it.
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Old Dec 8, 2024 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tsigwing
The flush procedure is not a requirement. Don't overthink it.

It’s quite literally the first step in the service procedure. Is there a way for them to prove it wasn’t done, likely not. But I don’t know if I’d say it’s not a requirement.


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Old Dec 8, 2024 | 06:38 PM
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It’s quite literally the first step in the service procedure. Is there a way for them to prove it wasn’t done, likely not. But I don’t know if I’d say it’s not a requirement
Any vehicle in question using an MDI2 must be logged into and connected to Tech Line Connect in order to run the hydraulic flush procedure, so there is an electronic fingerprint associated with this.
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Old Dec 8, 2024 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wadejesu
What about the Foxwell NT 510 Elite, I saw a youtube video showing that it worked, Not sure what year the C8 was.
I tired one of these NT 510 units with my 2021 Z51, and the TCM doesn't even show up in the list of active modules.
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Old Dec 9, 2024 | 05:09 AM
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Just so I'm understanding this correctly but if you have a 23 and up vette the x431 series can do the full and partial flushes for the maintenance intervals because it's embedded on the tcm then?
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Old Dec 9, 2024 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by breecher_7
It’s quite literally the first step in the service procedure. Is there a way for them to prove it wasn’t done, likely not. But I don’t know if I’d say it’s not a requirement.

Search around this site, there is a video from GM saying that for DIY, this is not necessary. GM does it because they can.
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mortelec
I have $5k in scan tools and MDI2 is the only one that will do 20-22. Yes I've tried with launch, Zurich, autel and creader.



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Do you know which protocol is being used to connect to the vehicle?

I ask because I have a VXNano I used to connect to an older (2007) gm vehicles, but I'm assuming that we require different protocols with the Global B system in these vehicles. If so I guess I get a clone MDI 2 (the red ones, not the blue ones) and go from there.

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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rlhammon
Do you know which protocol is being used to connect to the vehicle?

I ask because I have a VXNano I used to connect to an older (2007) gm vehicles, but I'm assuming that we require different protocols with the Global B system in these vehicles. If so I guess I get a clone MDI 2 (the red ones, not the blue ones) and go from there.

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The post above says the GM tool writes the procedure to the ECU/TCM in the 2022 and earlier MYs. Once the HSF is performed by the dealer does the procedure stay in the ECU/TCM or is it lost?
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 04:23 PM
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That is a great question, I have gm techs do the procedure twice. Next spring I plan to try the elite, I really do not expect it to work.
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
The post above says the GM tool writes the procedure to the ECU/TCM in the 2022 and earlier MYs. Once the HSF is performed by the dealer does the procedure stay in the ECU/TCM or is it lost?
Unfortunately it's lost. The information that's written is done so in memory, and not a hard code change on the ECU. I bought my 2021 used in 2024, and as part of the deal I had the dealership change both the fluid and filter and then do the additional 2 liters for the track fill since the car sees a fair amount of time on a track.

I've tried multiple of the lesser expensive hand helds and none of them even show the TCM (Transmission Control Module) as present.

I'd try my VX Nano, but I have pay for the 3 day subscription just to try it out so I'm not doing that just yet. I might pick up one of the MDI2 clones from Amazon (since it's returnable there) this winter when I get under the car to change oil, DCT fluid / filter, and some other items to prep for next race season. Might not be until end of January when I have the time to do all of that work and give this a whirl.
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Old Dec 12, 2024 | 04:30 PM
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I Can confirm the NT510 works on my 2023 Z51, Just using tool, no internet, No subscription, just the tool.
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 06:39 PM
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Yes Wadejsu, for 23 and up the third party scanners should work. The module architecture is different than in the 22 and earlier model years. I'm looking around for a second hand Bosch mdi2 and if i can't find one I'll bite the bullet. In the long run the subscription and the tool will run less than a dealer visit.
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When you say: "Java needs to be downgraded..." which Java version are you referring to downgrade to? Asking for a friend
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Any updates on anyone having luck with doing a DCT flush using a 3rd party scanner/tool on 20-22 model yars? Or still only via MDI2?
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Old Jun 7, 2025 | 04:29 PM
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Apart from mdi2, Have you tried Mongoose or TOPDON for gm and gds

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TOPDON Rlink J2534 interface has an MDI-2 emulation mode that works perfectly with SPS2 and GDS-2 - $239 @ Amazon
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