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From: Early 2020 Z51 Coupe, Original Owner, Ahwatukee Foothills, AZ
Originally Posted by BJ67
Isnt he about 479 to the wheel on his E85 tune? That is like 538 to the flywheel . Gotta be good for 3-4 mph and 3-4 tenths over a base untuned bone stock car.
A bit more, 484hp to the wheels from Cordes Performance and I can tell you for fact, They Do Not play Dyno games.
Don't know times until you go, wasn't able to last fall/winter/spring. will post times Nov/Dec when our weather breaks Oct. 27.
1/2 mile C8 vs C8Z run from cooler, "valley of the sun", days a few months ago.
I am doing some more mods on mine in 3 weeks and adding E85. The price ain't cheap for the tuning. The MPVI3 quote includes the $400 in credits. The flex fuel sensor requires another guy in addition to my tuning dude. This is the only tuning place within 4 hours of my house also. jj
Check. $4500-5000 seems to be the going rate for full flexfuel capability. Not cheap but certainly better value for money than a lot of the C8 bolt-on bullshit people spend $5,000 on. It's real, repeatable power across the rev band, not some minuscule gain from 6200rpm to redline that is well within the margin of error for the dyno. Provided, of course, you have E85 available in your area. For a lot of us it isn't worth it because we don't have it.
A bit more, 484hp to the wheels from Cordes Performance and I can tell you for fact, They Do Not play Dyno games.
Don't know times until you go, wasn't able to last fall/winter/spring. will post times Nov/Dec when our weather breaks Oct. 27.
1/2 mile C8 vs C8Z run from cooler, "valley of the sun", days a few months ago.
So how does this 484whp Stingray destroy a 600whp Z06 like this? The Z06 has more aggressive gearing to boot. Something seems weird about this video. Did you get the jump and the Z driver just kind of quit?
So how does this 484whp Stingray destroy a 600whp Z06 like this? The Z06 has more aggressive gearing to boot. Something seems weird about this video. Did you get the jump and the Z driver just kind of quit?
That's me driving my C8 in the video. My car makes 480 wheel, Z06's on my dyno make 560-570 wheel and 400'ish tq. In the 1/2 mile they (C8Z) trap 152-4 usually. I have been 153/4
It's easy, they have no low end and I make a lot more and get out every single time on them, you will see later in the video it stops my pull, comes back a smidge, and then stops due to aero, gear, etc.
So how does this 484whp Stingray destroy a 600whp Z06 like this? The Z06 has more aggressive gearing to boot. Something seems weird about this video. Did you get the jump and the Z driver just kind of quit?
The video has nothing to do with the guy with the E85 tune and other mods that I was referring to in this discussion I do not think. The way the moded stingray pulled from the Z06 out of the shoot and stayed out front requires a bit more horsepower. I agree a Z06 should have about 595 - 600 RWHP bone stock unless like you say, maybe the Z06 just gave up when he was caught sleeping .
Oh. My mistake. The way it was put into that post made it seem as though it was ArizonaZ06's car with E85 and bolt-ons. At least that's how I took it. Something is still weird. By Cordes' own admission, the Stingray is down 90whp and has taller gearing but it just walks that Z. Something is not adding up.
Oh. My mistake. The way it was put into that post made it seem as though it was ArizonaZ06's car with E85 and bolt-ons. At least that's how I took it. Something is still weird. By Cordes' own admission, the Stingray is down 90whp and has taller gearing but it just walks that Z. Something is not adding up.
The Z was paddle shifting or did not use launch control correctly. Or possible both ?
The video has nothing to do with the guy with the E85 tune and other mods that I was referring to in this discussion I do not think. The way the moded stingray pulled from the Z06 out of the shoot and stayed out front requires a bit more horsepower. I agree a Z06 should have about 595 - 600 RWHP bone stock unless like you say, maybe the Z06 just gave up when he was caught sleeping .
I've repeated this with other Z's. They are not that fast, I've driven plenty as we work on them.
Originally Posted by combatninja
Oh. My mistake. The way it was put into that post made it seem as though it was ArizonaZ06's car with E85 and bolt-ons. At least that's how I took it. Something is still weird. By Cordes' own admission, the Stingray is down 90whp and has taller gearing but it just walks that Z. Something is not adding up.
Peak wheel vs a much broader powerband. Multiple C8Zs have ran here and all trap the same.
Originally Posted by 123sugey
The Z was paddle shifting or did not use launch control correctly. Or possible both ?
I ran him multiple times and others, same outcome. He used launch control and auto shifted.
I would not underestimate a fully bolt-on C8 with E85 Flex/Fuel. The C8 Z06 is a quick car. But I think the gearing kind of hampers the topend somewhat. You just have to keep it in its powerband. My friend runs his C8 Z06 at the drag strip and that's one thing I noticed immediately.
You guys can say what you want. Here's something to consider when you think your bolt-on Stingray can hang with a Z06. Take a 50mph roll starting in 3rd gear. You both hammer it and are pretty even. The Stingray (let's assume it is Z51), has to shift to 4th at 83mph. Just when you were feeling good about yourself, you have to shift to an overdrive gear, Uh oh. The Z06 can stay in 3rd, wait for it......all the way to 105mph. This is a problem. You have to shift at 115 to 5th and you know the party's over as the car truly falls on its face. Z06 guy can stay in 4th almost until you are out of 5th. The ability of that car to rev is a huge difference maker. It is simply not possible for a car with less than 500whp and a 6500rpm redline to walk a car with 600whp and an 8600rpm redline. The more powerful, higher-revving car has more aggressive gearing to boot.
I know someone is going to chime in immediately and talk about how from a dig the LT2 has enough torque to reverse the rotation of the Earth. Fine, it might get the jump but the Z06 will catch it halfway through 2nd gear.
Here is a time slip when I lined up with a good friend of mine......not a grudge match. My friend just wanted to see the difference with my installed drag radials. His Z06 gradually pulled me at the very end, however I was the first to finish. My car spun slightly on the 60ftand he had a bad 60ft time. Now I kind of feel like if I had headers and a E85 tune it would have been a close showing at the end of the 1/4 mile. And with the additional horsepower from the Z06 I am quite sure it would gradually start pulling away after 1/4 mile.
My car on the right
I could put my Mom in a Rimac Nevera and run her in my Stingray. I've watched my Mom drive, she is going to lose. That makes my Stingray faster than a Rimac, right?
I could put my Mom in a Rimac Nevera and run her in my Stingray. I've watched my Mom drive, she is going to lose. That makes my Stingray faster than a Rimac, right?
Nonsense sir......you refuse or just don't get it. Nothing to do with your mother. So your little joke is not funny.
What am I not getting? That a proven 10.5 @ 130mph car is faster than your 10.99 @ 124mph car on drag radials? I don't care who you ran in their Z06, the run was not indicative of what the car can do.
I know what a Z06 is capable of because I am with the guys that run them at my track......10.70's at my track which is very fast for a stock car. Also at the same track......10.70 for a bolt on C8 without headers, 10.00 for a full bolt on including E85 tune .....world record, 10.50s full bolt on. My car went quicker than 10.99....still making progress. So what did you run with your 3 C8 that you have mentioned? Give us some dyno numbers or some track numbers. If you think breaking into 10s with the C8 is a piece of cake, give it a try. It took me almost 30 runs to figure things out. Furthermore, most of the people at track that are running 11.00s and that's any model car, are trying their best to break into the 10s even with more horsepower than my C8.
Coming this fall my friend just bought a C8Z06. We will push this car to the limit at the drag strip....
