Could the Z06 be supercharged?
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Could the Z06 be supercharged?
Now that we have the specs on the new Cadillac CT4/5-V series, we know that they went to a supercharged 6.2L engine. Interesting departure from their previous TT platform. And also noted that this will be the last hurrah for their ICE engine lineup as well (love it or hate it)...
This has me wondering what the odds are of Chevy following suit on the new Z06. What if the TT FPC is for the ZR-1 and the Z06 gets a supercharged engine? Just food for thought since we have nothing else right now but speculation lol..
https://www.cadillac.com/future-vehi...ng-reservation
This has me wondering what the odds are of Chevy following suit on the new Z06. What if the TT FPC is for the ZR-1 and the Z06 gets a supercharged engine? Just food for thought since we have nothing else right now but speculation lol..
https://www.cadillac.com/future-vehi...ng-reservation
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02-02-2021, 11:45 AM
I've heard the same rumors. However, thats not "everything" I've heard. Theres also TT FPC rumors floating around out there too. Some people were thinking the TT blackwing from the previous CTS-V (which we now know the next generation of blackwing engines are supercharged and not turbo'd). Thats what really got me thinking.
Rick @ Conti teased a little that he might know something about the Z06 but he would not say. The only clue he gave was something along the lines of "and you all thought it was going to be..." so this stuck in my head.
Rick @ Conti teased a little that he might know something about the Z06 but he would not say. The only clue he gave was something along the lines of "and you all thought it was going to be..." so this stuck in my head.
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Everything I have heard from informed sources seems to indicate that the Z06 will be a naturally aspirated, flat plane crank, 5.5 litre motor.
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I wonder where all those posters went now?? hahaha
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Rick @ Conti teased a little that he might know something about the Z06 but he would not say. The only clue he gave was something along the lines of "and you all thought it was going to be..." so this stuck in my head.
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I've heard the same rumors. However, thats not "everything" I've heard. Theres also TT FPC rumors floating around out there too. Some people were thinking the TT blackwing from the previous CTS-V (which we now know the next generation of blackwing engines are supercharged and not turbo'd). Thats what really got me thinking.
Rick @ Conti teased a little that he might know something about the Z06 but he would not say. The only clue he gave was something along the lines of "and you all thought it was going to be..." so this stuck in my head.
Rick @ Conti teased a little that he might know something about the Z06 but he would not say. The only clue he gave was something along the lines of "and you all thought it was going to be..." so this stuck in my head.
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I've heard the same rumors. However, thats not "everything" I've heard. Theres also TT FPC rumors floating around out there too. Some people were thinking the TT blackwing from the previous CTS-V (which we now know the next generation of blackwing engines are supercharged and not turbo'd). Thats what really got me thinking.
Rick @ Conti teased a little that he might know something about the Z06 but he would not say. The only clue he gave was something along the lines of "and you all thought it was going to be..." so this stuck in my head.
Rick @ Conti teased a little that he might know something about the Z06 but he would not say. The only clue he gave was something along the lines of "and you all thought it was going to be..." so this stuck in my head.
But the NA FPC is in the books to go into a car, and it won't go in a grandsport because there isn't any. It won't go in a ZR1 because that's always superior to the z06, so it only makes sense to put it in the z06.
Unless there's 2 versions of the z06. A street going and a track only version. Light weight NA FPC that costs more but only for the track junkies. And a left over LT4/5 as a final hoorah for the C8Z. But i doubt it.
It's certainly looking like the NA FPC.
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Yes it is possible. GM filed a patent for a supercharger that looks like a circular compressor centered at the top of the intake manifold, probably driven by a pinion shaft off the crank. This would satisfy the packaging constraints of the C8 as well as the lack of belt whine or turbo whistle in the spy videos. It would also easily allow >650hp in a 5.5 FPC.
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Stuffing the tried and true LT4 back in a C8Z makes more sense than putting a TT FPC in the C8Z. That car will cost north of 140k. That's why that TT FPC is for the ZR1/ZORA.
But the NA FPC is in the books to go into a car, and it won't go in a grandsport because there isn't any. It won't go in a ZR1 because that's always superior to the z06, so it only makes sense to put it in the z06.
Unless there's 2 versions of the z06. A street going and a track only version. Light weight NA FPC that costs more but only for the track junkies. And a left over LT4/5 as a final hoorah for the C8Z. But i doubt it.
It's certainly looking like the NA FPC.
But the NA FPC is in the books to go into a car, and it won't go in a grandsport because there isn't any. It won't go in a ZR1 because that's always superior to the z06, so it only makes sense to put it in the z06.
Unless there's 2 versions of the z06. A street going and a track only version. Light weight NA FPC that costs more but only for the track junkies. And a left over LT4/5 as a final hoorah for the C8Z. But i doubt it.
It's certainly looking like the NA FPC.
I don't think there will be 2 engine options for the Z06. That is very unlikely and hasn't ever been done before that I am aware of. But there still may be 2 higher up versions from the Z06 if the ZR-1 and the Zora are separate models.
Yes it is possible. GM filed a patent for a supercharger that looks like a circular compressor centered at the top of the intake manifold, probably driven by a pinion shaft off the crank. This would satisfy the packaging constraints of the C8 as well as the lack of belt whine or turbo whistle in the spy videos. It would also easily allow >650hp in a 5.5 FPC.
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The ability/option to make an affordable LT4 version that would sell like crazy makes me believe whatever it is, it will sell like never before. It will be an even bigger performance bargain than ever before. Just like the stingray.
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If you think about it, it makes sense. They have the cooling figured out by now for the LT4. The whole center part of the base C8's bumper is blocked off and it only uses the outer cheek grilles for heat exchangers. This leaves a ton of cooling potential for the middle of the front of the car. Yes, I know there is a frunk there, but they could divert air around that easily and still use surface area real estate of the middle of the front bumper to put another grille there.
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If you think about it, it makes sense. They have the cooling figured out by now for the LT4. The whole center part of the base C8's bumper is blocked off and it only uses the outer cheek grilles for heat exchangers. This leaves a ton of cooling potential for the middle of the front of the car. Yes, I know there is a frunk there, but they could divert air around that easily and still use surface area real estate of the middle of the front bumper to put another grille there.
I'll add it's also the 10 speed auto. Stays nice and cool and shifts as if God is controlling the logic. The C8Z will be even better I'm guessing.
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We can't discount the CAD models that have been floating around for quite some time now though. Yes, that could be for a ZR1 and/ or Zora model.. But we shall see in time I suppose.
I don't know why you think a N/A version HAS TO go into one of the models. There are no rules stating as such.. I also am not completely convinced there won't be a grand sport. That too is just a rumor at this point. For all we know there could be a grand sport and an E-Ray.
I don't think there will be 2 engine options for the Z06. That is very unlikely and hasn't ever been done before that I am aware of. But there still may be 2 higher up versions from the Z06 if the ZR-1 and the Zora are separate models.
Very good points.
I don't know why you think a N/A version HAS TO go into one of the models. There are no rules stating as such.. I also am not completely convinced there won't be a grand sport. That too is just a rumor at this point. For all we know there could be a grand sport and an E-Ray.
I don't think there will be 2 engine options for the Z06. That is very unlikely and hasn't ever been done before that I am aware of. But there still may be 2 higher up versions from the Z06 if the ZR-1 and the Zora are separate models.
Very good points.
Putting the LT4 makes more sense than a TT FPC in the c8z.
Otherwise it's looking like NA FPC for the z06.
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Will i end up the winner? Or will gm throw a curveball and put something totally different???
Hmmmm. Either way if NA, then there's going to be a lot of
Will i end up the winner? Or will gm throw a curveball and put something totally different???
Hmmmm. Either way if NA, then there's going to be a lot of
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