Could the Z06 be supercharged?
02-02-2021, 01:50 PM
#41
Instructor
What details do we want to speculate about tomorrow? I think the Z06 will have a center console that will be large enough to hold my 10" x 12" hope journal.
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02-02-2021, 02:04 PM
#42
I am offering to bet you $100 that the new Z will have more than 650 hp, because I am certain of that. I am not certain of which platform they will use to get there, so betting on that would be foolish. If you are anxious to lose more than $100, I am sure there are a lot of other guys on the Forum that will also take your money. Do we have a bet?
I'm not betting on hp, I'll bet on na or FI though. Fair?
02-02-2021, 02:06 PM
#43
Melting Slicks
How about we speculate on the chances that someone with no interest in this thread will actually waste their time by posting what only they think is a witty comment. I'm speculating you just did that.
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02-02-2021, 02:11 PM
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02-02-2021, 02:22 PM
#45
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02-02-2021, 02:22 PM
#46
LT7
02-02-2021, 02:23 PM
#47
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02-02-2021, 02:38 PM
#48
Show me where I said I was SURE that it would be TT. I have never said this. What I have said numerous times is that I am certain GM is not stupid enough to bring out a new Z with less hp than it's predecessor and that, because of this, I believe GM will most likely go FI. Is it POSSIBLE GM produces a dependable NA FPC that can make 650+ hp that isn't a warranty nightmare? Yes. Is it likely? Most engineers and engine builders would tell you no.
Only recently, like yesterday, is when people are throwing out the idea of possibly the LT4/5 going in. As if that's there last hope of hope lol.
I still could be wrong so I'm not claiming victory just yet.
However it's not looking good for you NA haters lmaoo
02-02-2021, 03:25 PM
#49
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02-02-2021, 03:39 PM
#50
I believe it's got to be a 750 HP TT DOHC 5.5 Liter Flat plane crank engine after reading countless speculation and here's why: Let’s think about this. If the GT2 RS is 700 HP from a TT 3.8 L 6cyl and weights 3200 lbs. What would the C8 Z06 have to have in order to compete? GM is benchmarking the C8 Z06 against the GT2 RS as seen by them testing the mules along with a GT2 RS. If the C8 Z06 weighs 3600 lbs they need at least 750 HP to even be close to competing with the GTRS. No way a 600-675 HP NA 5.5 liter car weighing 3600 lbs will do that. So in order to do that in addition to the 5.5 liter DOHC flat plane engine it needs to be Turbo Charged to the tune of 750 HP! I think the 600-675 HP NA leaks are intentionally blowing smoke so they can blow everyone away at the reveal. The C8R puts out 500 HP, the Ford GT 350 puts out 525 from a 5.2 L DOHC Flat plane crank. So a guess as to the street version of the GM 5.5 L flat plane crank is around 550-600 HP. Add twin turbo's to that and you get an additional 150-200 HP or 750 HP. The ZR1 would have the same setup except bigger turbo's, bring the HP to 850. Makes sense to me. And also this: Rick @ Conti teased a little that he might know something about the Z06 but he would not say. The only clue he gave was something along the lines of "and you all thought it was going to be..." Yea And we all thought is was going to be a 600-675 HP NA DOHC flat plane crank!!!!!!
This is my thinking exactly. You are on the same line of thought I have been since the beginning really. The car can’t have only 100 hp more than the base car. The car can’t only have 100 hp more and still weight the 3600 ish lbs it does. We know they can’t afford to drill enough weight to make that competitive. You need to be down around 3200 lbs for that to work. So what makes more sense tt 700-750 hp 3600/3700 lbs car competing with its competition or the 600 hp car slightly faster than the base car and losing all of its down low trq. Oh and let’s charge 25/30 grand more for this slight performance boost over base? Ya sign me up. If that were The case I might just order a z.51 stingray and save a ton of money.
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02-02-2021, 03:42 PM
#51
This is another important clue. Gm didn’t allow the v3 to have 650/650 because their flagship performance car has to be the top dog. No other reason for the v3 to be slightly detuned. The bs Cadillac gave regarding the slightly different exhaust was crap we all knew it.
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02-02-2021, 03:47 PM
#53
Le Mans Master
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02-02-2021, 03:48 PM
#54
Melting Slicks
And who are you referring to as an NA hater? My current Vette is a highly modified NA LS2...I LOVE NA power plants...Just not with less than 650 hp in an unreliable FPC configuration at $85+k. If GM pulls a rabbit out of it's hat and is the first manufacturer in the world to mass market a RELIABLE 675 hp NA FPC power plant with more than 500 lb-ft, I'm all in, as I think most guys looking at a new Z would be. I just think there are a lot of us that are skeptical that GM can actually pull that off, regardless of what the auto rags are feeding us.
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02-02-2021, 03:58 PM
#55
Melting Slicks
02-02-2021, 04:02 PM
#56
Le Mans Master
02-02-2021, 04:05 PM
#57
Melting Slicks
02-02-2021, 04:10 PM
#58
Still crossing fingers on that NA GOODDDDNEESSS!!!!
02-02-2021, 04:22 PM
#59
Le Mans Master
And if it is an NA FPC engine, then even the thought of adding aftermarket turbo, supercharger, tune, etc means you are a high roller. Because if the engine turns out to be unreliable that is an expensive mistake with no warranty. $15-25K mistake maybe with labor?
02-02-2021, 04:31 PM
#60
Nah. Itll be a quick track car if NA. The zr1 with the tt will be the street powerhouse.