Bracket racing strategy...
#161
Race Director
I remember that day...it had to be 95* outside and I kept a towel in my cooler...I put it on my head in the staging lanes to keep a little cooler...my name is Fuzzy but you can call me Achmed...
I should have been more specific on my advice to Daddybugs...it was tailored to Orlando specifically on the dialing part...in Orlando the gates open at 2:30 pm and time shots happen before the sun goes down...then first round is just after sunset...usually that can mean you may pick up a couple of hun with the cooler air and tighter track in the first round...
In summer, nothing much changes until about the second or third round...a weather station and predicter is your friend in Orlando...
See ya tonite Daddy..we will be pitted under the trees as always...I went 12.27 in the 1/4 last night with a bad short time so things are shaking out with the new set up...
I should have been more specific on my advice to Daddybugs...it was tailored to Orlando specifically on the dialing part...in Orlando the gates open at 2:30 pm and time shots happen before the sun goes down...then first round is just after sunset...usually that can mean you may pick up a couple of hun with the cooler air and tighter track in the first round...
In summer, nothing much changes until about the second or third round...a weather station and predicter is your friend in Orlando...
See ya tonite Daddy..we will be pitted under the trees as always...I went 12.27 in the 1/4 last night with a bad short time so things are shaking out with the new set up...
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#168
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Mike and I will be heading down to the Super Chevy this weekend in Palm Beach...
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Hey Fuzzy, just letting you know that I'm 90% sure I will have my 91
S10 there in time for points on the 21st. It is very bright orange, so you won't miss it. Setting in the new 9 inch rear axle now and once I get the driveshaft made, it should be ready for racing next week for practice/test and tune. Real excited as it took over a year to build this truck. Don't know how consistent it will be and hopefully I will get a least a week to iron out the wrinkles. BTW, how did the Super Chevy Show this weekend? I wanted to go, but had too many things to do.
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Against a 9 second car: Dial a litle bit quicker than you think it'll run, so you can keep the throttle pinned to the floor the whole way without having to worry about breaking out. Only lift, if you are ABSOLUTELY SURE that he's not going to catch you. You really can't judge those cars when they're coming at you at 140 MPH. IMO, the best thing to do is dial hard and cut the tree down.
Sandbagging: Only sandbag against someone else who sandbags.
Sandbagging: Only sandbag against someone else who sandbags.
#171
Instructor
Quote: "Sandbagging: Only sandbag against someone else who sandbags."
Too many people are afraid of the dreaded "Sandbagger" Then why not make them afraid of you? Learn how to hold some extra in the bag, learn how to drive the stripe, and get comfortable with the situations that you are willing to use it.
Why be a follower? When you can be a leader!
Too many people are afraid of the dreaded "Sandbagger" Then why not make them afraid of you? Learn how to hold some extra in the bag, learn how to drive the stripe, and get comfortable with the situations that you are willing to use it.
Why be a follower? When you can be a leader!
#172
Race Director
Quote: "Sandbagging: Only sandbag against someone else who sandbags."
Too many people are afraid of the dreaded "Sandbagger" Then why not make them afraid of you? Learn how to hold some extra in the bag, learn how to drive the stripe, and get comfortable with the situations that you are willing to use it.
Why be a follower? When you can be a leader!
Too many people are afraid of the dreaded "Sandbagger" Then why not make them afraid of you? Learn how to hold some extra in the bag, learn how to drive the stripe, and get comfortable with the situations that you are willing to use it.
Why be a follower? When you can be a leader!
Last week Jeanne diald 12.45 and ran 12.446 with just a tap on the binders... the other lane broke out by .030 she broke out by .004 ! That alone says something for NOT holding "TOO MUCH" !
#173
Absolutly !! I never hold more than .03 and if I think I hit the tree.. I know I donn't have to lock up the breaks!
Last week Jeanne diald 12.45 and ran 12.446 with just a tap on the binders... the other lane broke out by .030 she broke out by .004 ! That alone says something for NOT holding "TOO MUCH" !
Last week Jeanne diald 12.45 and ran 12.446 with just a tap on the binders... the other lane broke out by .030 she broke out by .004 ! That alone says something for NOT holding "TOO MUCH" !
You can hold as much as you can confortablly scrub. You also have to know how much a lift or tap is going to take off your ET. The more you do it the better you get at scrubing and seeing the other car. Last week a couple of rounds I was holding .06. I never came close of breaking out. I dialed too hard in my loosing round and ran it out the back door to a loosing over .02. Duah.
#174
Safety Car
I just run my own race.
I like to dial tight to the number and go for a good light regardless of what's in the other lane.
I know how to use the powerband of the C6 LS3 to my advantage at the top end to make for a close race against cars that are alittle faster than mine if need be.
I don't care for sandbagging. I've always believed it you live by the fender you die by the fender.
I did come up with a few little tricks over time in regards to driving the top end, but those I keep to myself.
I like to dial tight to the number and go for a good light regardless of what's in the other lane.
I know how to use the powerband of the C6 LS3 to my advantage at the top end to make for a close race against cars that are alittle faster than mine if need be.
I don't care for sandbagging. I've always believed it you live by the fender you die by the fender.
I did come up with a few little tricks over time in regards to driving the top end, but those I keep to myself.
#175
Instructor
Wow, this thread went untouched for 5 months. I still jump in the CF to see what's going on, and would always like to see some action on this thread. As I can't really be talked out of my approach to bracket racing......I still enjoy reading others' ideas.
#176
Drag Race
Your consistency is most important of course. The closer you can run to your dail the better . If you leave yourself a little more room you will have to look over your shoulder to see where the faster car is and pedal . My advice is to improve your on time shift point or go to auto trans. My quote is IF YOU LIFT YOU LOOSE.
I've done lots of heads up racing, and am now just starting to try my hand at brackets. I've done fairly well, even made it to the bracket final last time out, but I need some help.
When getting into the later rounds, I end up next to the 9 second cars (I run mid 13s). I'm thinking it'd be a good strategy to dial in VERY tight, and just go for it.
My thinking is, the faster car is going to try and sandbag me and beat me to the line by a foot. (Last time I lost by .007).
IF I pull a better light then them, and breakout, and they beat me by a foot, then they broke out more than me, and I win right?
And if I don't break out, then I'll be very close to my dial in.
I guess what I'm asking, is it a bad idea to dial in to my average ET? I'm not sure if the 9 second car is racing me, or racing himself, and knows if I'm breaking out or not. I'm only consistent within a tenth or a bit more. I can usually get em off the tree though. Last time out I ran a .500, .502, and .503 reaction time.
When getting into the later rounds, I end up next to the 9 second cars (I run mid 13s). I'm thinking it'd be a good strategy to dial in VERY tight, and just go for it.
My thinking is, the faster car is going to try and sandbag me and beat me to the line by a foot. (Last time I lost by .007).
IF I pull a better light then them, and breakout, and they beat me by a foot, then they broke out more than me, and I win right?
And if I don't break out, then I'll be very close to my dial in.
I guess what I'm asking, is it a bad idea to dial in to my average ET? I'm not sure if the 9 second car is racing me, or racing himself, and knows if I'm breaking out or not. I'm only consistent within a tenth or a bit more. I can usually get em off the tree though. Last time out I ran a .500, .502, and .503 reaction time.
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Your consistency is most important of course. The closer you can run to your dail the better . If you leave yourself a little more room you will have to look over your shoulder to see where the faster car is and pedal . My advice is to improve your on time shift point or go to auto trans. My quote is IF YOU LIFT YOU LOOSE.
#178
Instructor
IF YOU LIFT YOU LOSE???? Anyone who really bracket races with this strategy in mind should go out and buy a HANS device RIGHT NOW!!! And adjust the helmet straps as tight as possible.
That way when you take tenth stripes and get laughed at all the time......at least you have an excuse as to why you could not see that the other car was 2 car lengths back.
And for the guy who was .000, .002, and .003.....why would you be so good on the tree and leave yourself the chance of not being able to run the number?
That way when you take tenth stripes and get laughed at all the time......at least you have an excuse as to why you could not see that the other car was 2 car lengths back.
And for the guy who was .000, .002, and .003.....why would you be so good on the tree and leave yourself the chance of not being able to run the number?
#180
Race Director
some larger tracks, with big car-counts, may limit each racer to a pair of time-shots, while smaller tracks, with fewer participants, will open the lanes, and let you run until your tongue is hangin'-out.
At some of the smaller tracks in Florida, I've seen some of my friends make 6, 8, or even more runs before eliminations begin