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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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I'm wondering about the people in the classes who complained to the state that they didn't receive enough training. It's like the kid in school who reminded the teacher at the end of class that she forgot to assign homework.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 02:37 PM
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Sorry to hear that. You have the right attitude and once you complete what your instructor messed up you will be good to go in the immediate future after that. They probably did all the basic background checks on you already, etc, so hopefully the process will be sped up for you.
I'm hoping that it isn't a complete start over when I appeal. I signed up for another full 16 hour course on the weekend of the 12th and 13th so I'll get it corrected quickly. Maybe I'll have my license before Memorial day.

I'm a bit surprised that I'm not really upset by all of this. I'm actually looking forward to the class. Getting to hang out with like minded people and shoot off at least 30 rounds isn't the worst way to spend 16 hours.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 06:12 PM
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I'm hoping that it isn't a complete start over when I appeal. I signed up for another full 16 hour course on the weekend of the 12th and 13th so I'll get it corrected quickly. Maybe I'll have my license before Memorial day.

I'm a bit surprised that I'm not really upset by all of this. I'm actually looking forward to the class. Getting to hang out with like minded people and shoot off at least 30 rounds isn't the worst way to spend 16 hours.
Best of luck to you!
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Illinois2008vert
I'm hoping that it isn't a complete start over when I appeal. I signed up for another full 16 hour course on the weekend of the 12th and 13th so I'll get it corrected quickly. Maybe I'll have my license before Memorial day.

I'm a bit surprised that I'm not really upset by all of this. I'm actually looking forward to the class. Getting to hang out with like minded people and shoot off at least 30 rounds isn't the worst way to spend 16 hours.
The ISP is notifying the applicants that their training is invalid and their applications will be denied. The applicants will have the opportunity to become re-trained without incurring the $150.00 application fee, and will be allowed to appeal the denial by submitting a written petition through the ISP’s administrative review process.

These investigations remain on-going and the public is encouraged to file complaints. To date, 13 firearms instructors are no longer approved to teach Illinois Concealed Carry Curricula, and 425 applicants have been notified of the invalid training. Beginning today, the ISP will be posting the names of the unapproved instructors on the Concealed Carry website under the firearms instructor section.

The public can report abuses by completing the complaint form on the ISP Concealed Carry website at: http://www.isp.state.il.us/, or by calling (217) 782-7980.
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 08:43 AM
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NRA lobbyist breaks Illinois law, helps change it

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White County among top two in concealed carry applications

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(WI) Prosecutors won't charge janitor, say he killed teens in self-defense

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Gutsy Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke Delivers Unforgettable Speech at USCCA Event

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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 07:06 PM
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 03:25 PM
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New Concealed Carry Law in Illinois

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Cops: No charges for man with concealed carry permit who fired at armed male

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Cops: No charges for man with concealed carry permit who fired at armed male

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,2472485.story
Just saw this on facebook, good stuff, and chalk one up for the good guys!
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Otis McDonald, 1933-2014

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Originally Posted by Mopar Jimmy
Just saw this on facebook, good stuff, and chalk one up for the good guys!
The story says the guy was walking from his garage to his house at 2:40AM. Not a good time to be out and about.

Two males in hoodies tried to accost him, and he was able to draw against an already drawn gun, fire several times, and miss every shot? I would think they had to be close enough that you couldn't miss, especially in a gangway. I'm guessing there were no other witnesses, so nobody else saw these two guys in hoodies. How on earth could the police possibly determine that it was self defense? There must be more to the story. I wonder who the guy is related to...

edit: Police are looking for a tall male and a short male. REALLY?

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Debate grows in community associations over concealed weapons

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Wisconsin now recognizes IL CCW.

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Permit(s) Honored In Wisconsin:

Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virgin Islands, Washington, Wyoming



Permit(s) Not Honored In Wisconsin:

Alabama, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Guam, Maine, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, American Samoa, N. Mariana Islands, Vermont



Permit(s) Honored In Wisconsin With Special Conditions:
Virginia NON-RESIDENT license only. Virginia resident license does not qualify for recognition in Wisconsin.
West Virginia license ISSUED OR RENEWED AFTER 06/08/12.
Alaska license ISSUED OR RENEWED ON OR AFTER 01/14/2013.
Missouri license ISSUED OR RENEWED ON OR AFTER 08/28/2013. This DOES NOT include any provisional license issued by the state.
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 08:11 AM
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URGENT ALERT - YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED

The Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence along with Anti-Gun State Representative Elaine Nekritz are planning a public meeting to build support for legislative restrictions on Illinois new concealed carry law.

IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS SHOW UP FOR THIS MEETING!

Anti-gun forces in the Illinois House are attempting to pass legislation that would make it nearly impossible for law-abiding citizens to get concealed carry permits. They even want to force the removal of firearms from American Legion and VFW halls. Imagine that. Our vets serve their country with honor and the gun grabbers want to thank them by denying them their Second Amendment Rights.

HERE'S HOW YOU CAN STOP THIS NONSENSE!

1. IMMEDIATELY call (847) 229-5499 and politely tell the person that you would like to RSVP for the April 16th public meeting. Call and RSVP even if you cannot make it to the meeting. DO NOT say anything to the person on the phone about your position on guns. If asked, just say that you are interested in learning about the impact of the concealed carry law on you and your family. Again, DO NOT say anything to the person about being pro-gun...they do not need to know where you stand...they only need to know that you are RSVPing for the public meeting. It's important that you make their phones ring off the hook! Keep them busy!

2. Attend the public meeting - even if organizers tell you that there is no space available:

a. Indian Trails Library, 355 Schoenbeck Road, Wheeling, IL

b. The meeting will be held Wednesday, April 16, 2014 and begins at 6:00 PM. Be sure to show up by 5:15 or so to be sure that you get a seat. This meeting will be very crowded so plan ahead and get their early.

c. The antigunners who will be there will certainly attack your right to keep and bear arms and your right to defend yourself and your family from dangerous criminals. Be prepared to vigorously defend your rights! Do not let these people trample on the rights that so many brave Americans fought and died for.

d. If you see members of the media there, approach them. Tell them that you are a law abiding citizen and that you do not appreciate having your rights challenged. Tell the media that you fully support the right to self defense that you will not allow your right to defend yourself to be diminished.

Remember - only you can preserve and protect your rights. If you leave that job up to the "other guy," you will see your rights evaporate.

DO NOT FORGET TO RSVP (847) 229-5499 WHETHER YOU PLAN TO ATTEND OR NOT!

CALL NOW!
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Saturday, April 12th, 2014: 9:00 am - 4:00 pm
Sunday, April 13th, 2014: 9:00 am - 2:00 pm
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122 West North Central, Tuscola, IL, 61953, United States
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Firearms instructor builds range to meet demand of concealed carry applicants

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Mom Says Cops Covered for Mayor's Nephew

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Nice.

Now we only need Michigan to do the same thing b/c those of us with Utah Permit are good to go in WI also but not MI.
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Ohio’s concealed-carry law has good track record

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...ck-record.html


Where you can’t carry: Illinois municipalities setting up the guidelines

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The Truth About Chicago’s Crime Rates

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27 People Shot In Chicago This Weekend, Including 16-Year-Old In Front Of His Church

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