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Old May 10, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zeeohh6ex
Do you see what had to be said in order for Chris to offer me that?
I offered you that because I truly felt bad for you given the financial situation you managed to put yourself in. You had told me numerous times how much you made per week and that you cant afford this repair. When you were at the shop last night you explained that you were living rent free and that all your money went into this car. Sob story or not I did feel bad and that you needed the money more than we did so am I a bad guy for that? Not for nothing and I am not here to hand you financial advice but I really think it was not the best idea to buy a pretty modded corvette for a daily driver that you simply cant afford to maintain.
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Originally Posted by Chris@East Coast Supercharging
I offered you that because I truly felt bad for you given the financial situation you managed to put yourself in. You had told me numerous times how much you made per week and that you cant afford this repair. When you were at the shop last night you explained that you were living rent free and that all your money went into this car. Sob story or not I did feel bad and that you needed the money more than we did so am I a bad guy for that? Not for nothing and I am not here to hand you financial advice but I really think it was not the best idea to buy a pretty modded corvette for a daily driver that you simply cant afford to maintain.
Chris, I gave you your chance last night to fix this. I feel your not doing whats right in the situation. What you need to do is MAN up say your wrong and fix my car. stating your wrong and taking action is two different things.
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Originally Posted by zeeohh6ex
George all the (grand in parts and labor) was a cop out plain and simple


$599 of the parts and labor was for a dyno tune I received that in result my motor blew. Would you really expect someone to pay for that?

it is insult to injury to make it look as there doing me a favor

Do you see what had to be said in order for Chris to offer me that?
I hope it all works out for you, time to go fishing.

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Old May 10, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zeeohh6ex
Chris, I gave you your chance last night to fix this. I feel your not doing whats right in the situation. What you need to do is MAN up say your wrong and fix my car. stating your wrong and taking action is two different things.
I said I would be willing to work with you on helping you find a good replacement engine. I even sent you an email first thing in the morning asking if you needed our help in finding an engine.
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you said last night you may be crossing the line by saying this and you are but If you would like my whole and current situation here it is

I work security and I've worked very hard for the past two years and built up enough credit to secure a loan for my dream car a c5 zo6 Corvette.

I live with my girlfriend because my parents are getting divorced so I don't pay rent

100% of my money goes to this car and for you to destroy it is like killing something I love and worked so hard to get

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Old May 10, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris@East Coast Supercharging
I said I would be willing to work with you on helping you find a good replacement engine. I even sent you an email first thing in the morning asking if you needed our help in finding an engine.

Chris this is not good enough.
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Originally Posted by zeeohh6ex
100% of my money goes to this car and for you to destroy it is like killing something I love and worked so hard to get
You keep bringing back up the issue and placing the blame back on us like its something we did wrong on our side. Are you saying its something we did that caused the damage?
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Originally Posted by Chris@East Coast Supercharging
I offered you that because I truly felt bad for you given the financial situation you managed to put yourself in. You had told me numerous times how much you made per week and that you cant afford this repair. When you were at the shop last night you explained that you were living rent free and that all your money went into this car. Sob story or not I did feel bad and that you needed the money more than we did so am I a bad guy for that? Not for nothing and I am not here to hand you financial advice but I really think it was not the best idea to buy a pretty modded corvette for a daily driver that you simply cant afford to maintain.
This is what I said in the other thread (that surprise surprise got locked).

OP, you even replied to me yesterday that you would do it all over again if given the chance. On what sounds to be a very limited personal financial situation, you bought a previously modded car with a h/c package and nitrous as a DD!

You have absolutely no idea how that car was treated before you bought it. Did it escape you that perhaps the guy who sold it wasn't very honest about his use of the car. I don't think many people do h/c and nitrous installs on show cars.

I honestly feel bad for you too, but I don't think you can blame ECS for this.

Well I think this thread has run its course. OP, I honeslty wish you good luck with the fix.

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Old May 10, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris@East Coast Supercharging
You keep bringing back up the issue and placing the blame back on us like its something we did wrong on our side. Are you saying its something we did that caused the damage?

at this point I'm done explaining this to you

1:You and Doug handled the whole thing from day 1 incorrectly
2:You performed UNAUTHORIZED REPAIRS to my vehicle which is ILLEGAL in the State Of New Jersey and could have a possibility of leading to the demise of my engine
3:The day Doug finds the Post on here my motor blows up when its never had a problem besides a MSD coil since I've owned it
4: We planed to have the car tunned on Tuesday did we not
Doug took it upon himself the tune the car without me and our agreeing time

I've never signed any type of document for anything

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Originally Posted by undertaker
that engine was a bomb waiting to pop.



Thats the marks of long term detonation. of course a 150hp dry shot with no tune should have said it all. Screws on drag radials? its only an 11 second car.
Nitrous will melt a piston that cracks from detonation instantly. Not crack it and leave it to fail later...
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Nitrous will melt a piston that cracks from detonation instantly. Not crack it and leave it to fail later...
as will 22 lbs of boost even quicker, been there done that a few times. I've sprayed numerous bottles through my vehicles and never had pistons that looked like that....hell maybe something did go down the intake port.
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from what I'm reading he had a non-running car towed in, they got it running after undoing and redoing his handiwork and wham it pops on the dyno.

So now he should get a free motor.....

he can twist it however he wants, next would he say if he went to a dyno day and his car popped on the dyno he should get a free motor there too? Or if he picks up a nail on the road home depot should buy him new tires. Things break, if you can't afford to fix a vette, drive a kia.
I'm not saying he deserves anything...

Read through what's already been said by both parties and you'll possibly see what I'm referring to.

It's not my place to point them out to anyone...
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I've reviewed this thread at the request of Pewter99.

It started off being one topic, turned into a dispute thread and deteriorated into an online debate involving the principals. It also drew lots of comments from third-parties with no direct knowledge of the dispute.

I've edited the thread to remove some of the more personal hostilities as well as to delete some of the third-party contributions.

This appears to be a classic example of why Corvetteforum tries to enforce rules on the appropriate approach to unresolved disputes:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/foru...-disputes.html

This dispute happens to involve ECS, but we've seen the same kind of threads involving most of the other supporting tuners on the site at one time or another.

My observation has been that the more online bashing that takes place, and the further afield the debate ranges from the facts of the dispute, the less likely any amicable resolution is possible.

Handled properly, the first step in such a dispute is to make every effort to resolve the issue offline before posting an unresolved dispute in accordance with the above-linked rules.

Moderators are always glad to work with a customer and a vendor to help steer them toward a process that will address each of their concerns.

Understanding there are always two sides to any dispute, we don't take sides and don't tell either party what they have to do. We just try to get them talking and try to help them keep the discussion on the facts, rather than emotions.

If a pattern of unresolved disputes develops invlolving a supporting vendor, our practice is to remove the vendor from the site. Conversely, we also have removed users from the site when they demonstrated they would not abide by site rules.

I'm now going to return this thread to the section where it started, but the thread will remain locked to further discussion unless there is an update from either party on the dispute. In that instance, they can send me the update and I'll be glad to post it on their behalf.

In this dispute, I notice the customer posted a second thread to address the same dispute in another section. Since the rules allow only one thread to be posted on a dispute, the second thread will be removed.





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