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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 05:56 AM
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I like the idea..
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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The arguments for the 3-way split are essentially the same as putting clear location information in the title bar -- quick focus on events of interest within the travel interests and capabilities of the reader. But the website also offers tools to permit readers to track multiple forums for information. The principal impact of a single CA or 2 CA split is on individuals who post information that they want all CA forum members to see. If there were a "post to mutliple forums" tool this would facilitate any number of forums and poster's ability to target specific audiences regardless of how many forums are created.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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So when is this going to happen already?
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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So its been voted on, now when is it going to happen?
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Troy. Any thoughts?
The vote is currenty 2-1 in favor of splitting the section. And this poll has been posted for almost three months.


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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 12:43 AM
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Eh,..........YA,........I think that Oregon and washington ABSOFREEKENLUTLY should have a seperate 'REGION' THREAD!! Although its compleatly up to Troy .........FOR YOU THAT DONT KNOW ,......OUR BENIFACTOR
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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This thread has been going for over two months, and there is an overwhelming response to divide it into three sections. At what point does the Administration listen?
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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I voted, keep it the same. However, it would not bother me to see a Pacific Northwest (Oregon & Washington) & California Section. Spliting the state, is silly, imo.
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Do you really think that people in San Diego care about what is happening in Redding?
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 01:37 AM
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Do you really think that people in San Diego care about what is happening in Redding?
Actually doje,

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Originally Posted by Caboboy
I voted to leave it as is. I like seeing what's going on up north or down south. Being in the San Fran area allows me to take a little road trip if I've got any time

If it were split into separate sections, I'd likely never know what the other folks are curently doing
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by doje
This thread has been going for over two months, and there is an overwhelming response to divide it into three sections. At what point does the Administration listen?
I am not trying to be confrontational... so here goes.... Do you really consider 200 votes in 2 months an overwhelming response?

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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by vetterdstr
I am not trying to be confrontational... so here goes.... Do you really consider 200 votes in 2 months an overwhelming response?

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Yes...since only 24 of those want to leave it as it is. I just can't understand the beef about the PNW wanting their own section. Is it too hard to click on a different section if you want to see what is going on?
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by vetterdstr
I am not trying to be confrontational... so here goes.... Do you really consider 200 votes in 2 months an overwhelming response? VR
Yes, when almost 80% of the votes were to break out PNW to it's own section. Those votes are from the folks up in this area who all find it difficult to see what's happening in our region for all of the previously mentioned reasons.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody
Yes, when almost 80% of the votes were to break out PNW to it's own section. Those votes are from the folks up in this area who all find it difficult to see what's happening in our region for all of the previously mentioned reasons.
You are way too generous. The "yes" votes were just under 90%.
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Would anyone else like to comment on my post?

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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by vetterdstr
Would anyone else like to comment on my post?
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Sure, I'll comment. It is obvious to almost everyone reading this thread that members in the northwest want their own site. It is even more obvious that in all of California, only 24 members cared or objected enough about the subject to vote against the idea.

Currently, no other region stretches from Mexico to Canada. The majority of viewers tend to look at events or topics that apply to the areas around where they live. If members are interested in other areas, they are just a click away.

What possible harm can there be in dividing the section?
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Would anyone else like to comment on my first post? And keep in mind the subject is... (Keeping in mind the total membership in the area that spans from Mexico to Canada). do you think that 200 votes in 2 months is an overwhelming response?


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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vetterdstr
Would anyone else like to comment on my first post? And keep in mind the subject is... (Keeping in mind the total membership in the area that spans from Mexico to Canada). do you think that 200 votes in 2 months is an overwhelming response?


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Many of those people don't use this section. Of the people who do use this area of the forum it seems to be about 90% want a change. That seems to be an overwhelming majority.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 01:33 AM
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I think the question you are raising is what constitutes a "quorum" for purposes of making "decisions" about the forum. (I know the Forum isn't organized like a club, but bear with the analogy.) Each organization has to decide the minimum number of interested individuals that will be empowered to make decisions for the entire group.

You would probably agree that even if someone comes to the forum and gets information regarding regional events their views on Forum design can't be considered unless they are willing to join the Forum? As I write the number of members is approximately 50% of the total browsers looking at some page on the website(1200 out of 2400). The most users ever on the website at any one time was 5187. Even if you assume that 75% of that number were members that means that maybe as many as 3500 members were on the site at any one time -- less than 5% of the total number of people who have ever signed up for this Forum (97,531).

Using the "quorum" analogy, the Forum would be hard pressed to make any decision, if it put things to a contemporaneous vote, if it needed to have more than 2000 members available to vote. Even if it opened voting for a period of time it would have difficulty if it had to collect 10,000 unique pro and con votes. And that is for all Forum members world wide.

Yes, the West Coast is a populous reqion -- say 20%. So 20% of the Forum members could be about 19,000. But of this number it is not clear that more than 10% are more than casual users and have no interest in policy decisions of the Forum. That makes the number of persons likely to care at all about how the Forum conducts its business with respect to the Pacific region certainly less than 2000. Of this 2000 it is unlikely (given the information about maximum users and member to guest ratios) that more than 250 of the 1200 current users are from the Pacific region.

All of this is a long way of saying that 200 votes from the Pacific region may well be as good a result as one could expect.
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