REAL IPOD Interface for C6!!!
Heel & Toe
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From: San Rafael CA
Originally Posted by Nox
C6's have that built in electronic delay that keeps certain things running even after shutting off the engine. It's possible that the circuitry in the X2 is somehow fooled into thinking the car is still running. Maybe it needs to "poll" the electronics a bit later to determine if the car is off?
Victor said the real issue right now is not the on/off problem, but that some customers cannot even get the thing to work on the Nav screens.
Victor said the real issue right now is not the on/off problem, but that some customers cannot even get the thing to work on the Nav screens.
At this point, I don't really care that much about CONTROLLING the ipod from the nav screen. That would be ideal if it worked well, but I don't mind too much using the ipod itself for control. I'm more interested in getting a good, clean line signal into the head unit without having to dismantle the dash for access to the back of the HU (as required with the other, earlier alternatives, which from what I understand don't really work with the '06 nav 6MT at all well anyway). I'm really most concerned with not having any drained-battery surprises or similar problems.
The FM transmitter I'm using now is barely satisfactory
--even though it at least uses the line out dock connector, rather than the headphone jack, to grab the ipod signal--but its sound quality is really marginal compared to what the ipod is capable of, because of course the FM conversion/transmission/reception process is simply not really clean. Going through FM is obviously really a semi-desperate last-ditch kludge.
Safety Car
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From: Santa Clara, CA
Originally Posted by L in Marin
VERY interesting. Thanks for the update.
At this point, I don't really care that much about CONTROLLING the ipod from the nav screen. That would be ideal if it worked well, but I don't mind too much using the ipod itself for control. I'm more interested in getting a good, clean line signal into the head unit without having to dismantle the dash for access to the back of the HU (as required with the other, earlier alternatives, which from what I understand don't really work with the '06 nav 6MT at all well anyway). I'm really most concerned with not having any drained-battery surprises or similar problems.
The FM transmitter I'm using now is barely satisfactory
--even though it at least uses the line out dock connector, rather than the headphone jack, to grab the ipod signal--but its sound quality is really marginal compared to what the ipod is capable of, because of course the FM conversion/transmission/reception process is simply not really clean. Going through FM is obviously really a semi-desperate last-ditch kludge.
At this point, I don't really care that much about CONTROLLING the ipod from the nav screen. That would be ideal if it worked well, but I don't mind too much using the ipod itself for control. I'm more interested in getting a good, clean line signal into the head unit without having to dismantle the dash for access to the back of the HU (as required with the other, earlier alternatives, which from what I understand don't really work with the '06 nav 6MT at all well anyway). I'm really most concerned with not having any drained-battery surprises or similar problems.
The FM transmitter I'm using now is barely satisfactory
--even though it at least uses the line out dock connector, rather than the headphone jack, to grab the ipod signal--but its sound quality is really marginal compared to what the ipod is capable of, because of course the FM conversion/transmission/reception process is simply not really clean. Going through FM is obviously really a semi-desperate last-ditch kludge.
If the manual mode works without killing the battery, I am interested. Has anyone out there with an 05 automatic, xm and nav used this unit? If so how goes it??? 
Instructor
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From: Huntingdon Valley PA
I installed a unit today...2006 6MN, NAV, XM...after over an hour the led did not shut down...(ipod was disconnected). No time to play with it now...will post more when I get a chance this weekend. I was hoping for manual control, and aux input for my sirius starmate replay. We'll see....
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Instructor
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From: Huntingdon Valley PA
Ok...tried again today...
Ipod works on manual mode and sort-of works on advanced mode...2nd aux in works fine...I turned off the car, then the radio and ipod...light stayed on...I went out for a while and came back a few hours later and the light is off. I guess I'll try it the same way a couple times before I start pulling up carpet and taking apart the center console to run the wires. I will keep you all posted.
Ipod works on manual mode and sort-of works on advanced mode...2nd aux in works fine...I turned off the car, then the radio and ipod...light stayed on...I went out for a while and came back a few hours later and the light is off. I guess I'll try it the same way a couple times before I start pulling up carpet and taking apart the center console to run the wires. I will keep you all posted.
Instructor
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From: Huntingdon Valley PA
Originally Posted by Miaugi
After you've had a chance to play with it a little more, I'd be interested in more details about the advance mode. 
I started it up and shut it down again. The light stayed on for over an hour and then I had to go out (took a different car) ...when I got back a couple hours later it was off again...but I don't know for how long it was on...also, as noted previously while the light was on I could hear a whirring noise from under the dash...this sound was gone when I returned and found the led off.
More to come...
Instructor
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From: Huntingdon Valley PA
Ok...so more details and observations...(if anyone is interested)...I took the car out again to test things out...second aux in works and sounds great...when switching to the ipod it automatically turns on and when switching to alternate source (whether it be second aux in, xm, cd or whichever) the ipod shuts off. This time I left the radio on and given enough time the led on the newcleus shut off. It seems to consistently take >1hr...I think I have it down to between 1 and 2 hours. When I started up this morning the DIC read 14.4 v on the battery so no evident prob's there yet. Hopefully whatever power it is drawing during the shutdown period is not significant enough to cause a problem. I think I'll do one more test and if it shuts down within 2 hours again I'll hide the module and start running wires. I haven't played with the advanced mode enough yet to get the hang of it. Again, more info to come as available.
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Melting Slicks
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Just got done installing my Neucleus NC-X2i so my ipod will plug straight into my car. Here are some pics. The downside is that once I turn it on with the ipod plugged in it will not switch back over to the stereo or xm until I unplug it and restart the car. I hope they have a fix for that. I'm going to call them.
Here's the setup. Find the NAV on top of the drivers rear wheel and pull it out.
Unplug this wire out of the NAV
Plug it in
Then plug in the ipod and run the wires under the carpet and into the center console
Here's the setup. Find the NAV on top of the drivers rear wheel and pull it out.
Unplug this wire out of the NAV
Plug it in
Then plug in the ipod and run the wires under the carpet and into the center console
Le Mans Master
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From: Montreal Qc
Originally Posted by 355Spider
...Find the NAV on top of the drivers rear wheel and pull it out....
Just one quick question though, I thought the unit over the drivers wheel was the XM radio? Is it actually the NAV?
Instructor
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From: Huntingdon Valley PA
Originally Posted by Miaugi
Thanks for the great pics of your install and for pointing out the problems you are having, let us know what happens.
Just one quick question though, I thought the unit over the drivers wheel was the XM radio? Is it actually the NAV?
Just one quick question though, I thought the unit over the drivers wheel was the XM radio? Is it actually the NAV?
I've yet to take any pictures but one additional bit of advice...if you plan to run rca cables for a second audio input get a 9 foot cable...the six foot cable I used worked but was just barely long enough.
Instructor
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From: Camas WA
I got mine today and put it in. Sounds awesome...manual mode works great. Just like people said before, IPOD pauses when you select a different input. I've got an '06 MN6 w/Nav and XM.
Advanced mode however...you have to be Psychic to run it...or hit button 2 the help button a whole lot. Somehow I ended up on advance mode to start with and my IPOD kept turning off when I tried to select a song on the IPOD itself. Finally figured out I was in Advanced Mode...used help alot and got back to manual mode. I don't know about the '05's...but in my 06 the only indicator that the neucleus is hooked up is in the top info scroll line. So it's somewhat confusing...unlike a couple pictures in this thread, I didn't have any of the buttons change to IPOD or Neucleus or anything like that.
But...overall...like the website says it works in Manual mode and the sound is great. Running the wire's pretty easy...through the middle of the e-brake boot, around the back of the console...under the carpet behind the drivers seat, then under the plastic piece where the back speaker is mounted into the neucleus. Sorry no pictures...it's dark outside now.
Advanced mode however...you have to be Psychic to run it...or hit button 2 the help button a whole lot. Somehow I ended up on advance mode to start with and my IPOD kept turning off when I tried to select a song on the IPOD itself. Finally figured out I was in Advanced Mode...used help alot and got back to manual mode. I don't know about the '05's...but in my 06 the only indicator that the neucleus is hooked up is in the top info scroll line. So it's somewhat confusing...unlike a couple pictures in this thread, I didn't have any of the buttons change to IPOD or Neucleus or anything like that.
But...overall...like the website says it works in Manual mode and the sound is great. Running the wire's pretty easy...through the middle of the e-brake boot, around the back of the console...under the carpet behind the drivers seat, then under the plastic piece where the back speaker is mounted into the neucleus. Sorry no pictures...it's dark outside now.
Safety Car
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From: Santa Clara, CA
Originally Posted by PoundF15
I got mine today and put it in. Sounds awesome...manual mode works great. Just like people said before, IPOD pauses when you select a different input. I've got an '06 MN6 w/Nav and XM.
Advanced mode however...you have to be Psychic to run it...or hit button 2 the help button a whole lot. Somehow I ended up on advance mode to start with and my IPOD kept turning off when I tried to select a song on the IPOD itself. Finally figured out I was in Advanced Mode...used help alot and got back to manual mode. I don't know about the '05's...but in my 06 the only indicator that the neucleus is hooked up is in the top info scroll line. So it's somewhat confusing...unlike a couple pictures in this thread, I didn't have any of the buttons change to IPOD or Neucleus or anything like that.
But...overall...like the website says it works in Manual mode and the sound is great. Running the wire's pretty easy...through the middle of the e-brake boot, around the back of the console...under the carpet behind the drivers seat, then under the plastic piece where the back speaker is mounted into the neucleus. Sorry no pictures...it's dark outside now.
Advanced mode however...you have to be Psychic to run it...or hit button 2 the help button a whole lot. Somehow I ended up on advance mode to start with and my IPOD kept turning off when I tried to select a song on the IPOD itself. Finally figured out I was in Advanced Mode...used help alot and got back to manual mode. I don't know about the '05's...but in my 06 the only indicator that the neucleus is hooked up is in the top info scroll line. So it's somewhat confusing...unlike a couple pictures in this thread, I didn't have any of the buttons change to IPOD or Neucleus or anything like that.
But...overall...like the website says it works in Manual mode and the sound is great. Running the wire's pretty easy...through the middle of the e-brake boot, around the back of the console...under the carpet behind the drivers seat, then under the plastic piece where the back speaker is mounted into the neucleus. Sorry no pictures...it's dark outside now.
Also, sounds like you are not getting battery drain wih your unit. Thanks for your input!
Instructor
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From: Camas WA
Originally Posted by humvet
Sounds good. By the way, is there a volume spike when you switch between XM/AM/FM/CD and the Nucleous? My 99 vert had a hard wired FM transmitter that ran through an FM station. Whenever I flipped the switch from the FM unit and the head unit, there was a huge spike in volume. It drove me crazy.
Also, sounds like you are not getting battery drain wih your unit. Thanks for your input!
Also, sounds like you are not getting battery drain wih your unit. Thanks for your input!
Not sure about the volume spike...I didn't play with it a whole bunch as far as switching sources...I'll check into that tomorrow. But the IPOD volume is forced full loud when it's plugged in. I'm assuming the spike you're asking about is a noise spike...not just a louder volume?...or do I have that wrong?
As for the battery...hasn't been in long enough...I'll figure that out in the morning I guess...I'll let everyone know.
Safety Car
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From: Santa Clara, CA
I am referring to a volume spike. The MP3 player had to be turned up full blast and then the head unit volume had to be turned up more then normal. When I turned off the MP3 player and switched back to the head unit, if I forgot to turn down the head unit volume, I would get the full impact of the cranked up head unit volume. Not good for the ears or the speakers! 
Also, I had to remember to turn down the volume of my MP3 player before plugging the headphones into my ears. Same decible problem.
Also, I had to remember to turn down the volume of my MP3 player before plugging the headphones into my ears. Same decible problem.
Instructor
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From: Camas WA
Originally Posted by humvet
I am referring to a volume spike. The MP3 player had to be turned up full blast and then the head unit volume had to be turned up more then normal. When I turned off the MP3 player and switched back to the head unit, if I forgot to turn down the head unit volume, I would get the full impact of the cranked up head unit volume. Not good for the ears or the speakers! Also, I had to remember to turn down the volume of my MP3 player before plugging the headphones into my ears. Same decible problem.
Also, I had to remember to turn down the volume of my MP3 player before plugging the headphones into my ears. Same decible problem. I'll recheck tomorrow...but I don't think that was the case.
Instructor
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From: Huntingdon Valley PA
Started the car up yesterday for the first time in 2 days....no problems battery reading 14.4 v. Same for today. So far so good.
A couple other issues thus far I for the most part have no trouble switching between XM/Ipod/auxin(sirius) using xm preset 1. I have noticed different presets reading different things at different times. I am currently using my wifes ipod and she doesn't have any playlists so I haven't gotten to try out that function yet. And today, the I noticed the ipod wasn't shutting down into charge mode. She's had that problem before with this unit. I had to do a manual reset then it seemed to work fine. I'll have to check to see if there is a firmware upgrade for the ipod as it happens with the bose boombox dock at times as well. Sometime soon I will take some pix and post them. Saturday should be my first day off in 2 weeks if all goes well I'll get some then.
A couple other issues thus far I for the most part have no trouble switching between XM/Ipod/auxin(sirius) using xm preset 1. I have noticed different presets reading different things at different times. I am currently using my wifes ipod and she doesn't have any playlists so I haven't gotten to try out that function yet. And today, the I noticed the ipod wasn't shutting down into charge mode. She's had that problem before with this unit. I had to do a manual reset then it seemed to work fine. I'll have to check to see if there is a firmware upgrade for the ipod as it happens with the bose boombox dock at times as well. Sometime soon I will take some pix and post them. Saturday should be my first day off in 2 weeks if all goes well I'll get some then.
Instructor
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From: Camas WA
Originally Posted by humvet
I am referring to a volume spike. The MP3 player had to be turned up full blast and then the head unit volume had to be turned up more then normal. When I turned off the MP3 player and switched back to the head unit, if I forgot to turn down the head unit volume, I would get the full impact of the cranked up head unit volume. Not good for the ears or the speakers! Also, I had to remember to turn down the volume of my MP3 player before plugging the headphones into my ears. Same decible problem.
Also, I had to remember to turn down the volume of my MP3 player before plugging the headphones into my ears. Same decible problem. 
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So, are we all set now?
Is the unit fully functional for all Vettes (05, 06, with or without XM, NAV, MN6/A4/A6)? Controlled at the head unit, or at the iPod?`
Of course, I'm really only worried about mine - 06, MN6, NAV and XM (expired).
So, are we all set now?
Is the unit fully functional for all Vettes (05, 06, with or without XM, NAV, MN6/A4/A6)? Controlled at the head unit, or at the iPod?`
Of course, I'm really only worried about mine - 06, MN6, NAV and XM (expired).
Instructor
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From: Camas WA
I've got the '06 MN6 w/Nav and expired XM. I can control the IPOD from the Nav Screen...it's difficult to get the hang of though, the only display is in the top line of the screen. For the most part it works in manual mode...but I've had my IPOD turn off at random times and reset itself. After its reset it works fine again. I don't know if that's an update issue on my IPOD, or some other issue, I haven't heard of anyone else having that problem. The sound quality is excellent...much better than the FM transmitter I was using. I just wish my IPOD wouldn't shut itself off... My vette's at the dealer right now...I'll do more experimenting when I get it back...