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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Since it has become obvious that this car is nothing special, we will go resto-mod on it. Classy custom 'glass, ground effects, lots of chrome on the engine, maybe something big up top. We have a '72 #3970010 four bolt 350 already here.Add a rumpty rump cam, headers and ? for carburetion. That with the turbo 400 and 4:10 posi ought to be plenty. A set of nice custom wheels with huge tires.

Resto-mod would include a modern suspension and motor. This sound more like a custom car.

Why teach a bunch of kids how to tune a carb. Chances are they will never even mess with one. I'm 41 and I don't even like them.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Oklahoma Academy
>>>>>>>>>put it back together with parts that are engineered the way you would want in a car that you would let your child drive.<<<<<<<<<

I would do that, except we would not get much for a 'vette with a four cylinder and six point roll cage.


>>>>>>>>>If you are dealing with students, they are probably young and cutting edge. I'm sure they don't stay up until 2am watching the history channel, discussing library books. Give them a fun time!<<<<<<<<

Actually, that is how my students are. We are a Bible/missionary school. But nevertheless, we will still have fun with our restoration project.

Since it has become obvious that this car is nothing special, we will go resto-mod on it. Classy custom 'glass, ground effects, lots of chrome on the engine, maybe something big up top. We have a '72 #3970010 four bolt 350 already here.Add a rumpty rump cam, headers and ? for carburetion. That with the turbo 400 and 4:10 posi ought to be plenty. A set of nice custom wheels with huge tires.

WDYT?

You think the kids will have fun with that?

I think it sounds great. A nice mix of all facets. New/old, restore/rebuild and modify. They should learn a lot and you will have a hard time wanting to part with it!!!!
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Budman78
Since it has become obvious that this car is nothing special, we will go resto-mod on it. Classy custom 'glass, ground effects, lots of chrome on the engine, maybe something big up top. We have a '72 #3970010 four bolt 350 already here.Add a rumpty rump cam, headers and ? for carburetion. That with the turbo 400 and 4:10 posi ought to be plenty. A set of nice custom wheels with huge tires.

Resto-mod would include a modern suspension and motor. This sound more like a custom car.

Why teach a bunch of kids how to tune a carb. Chances are they will never even mess with one. I'm 41 and I don't even like them.







Interesting, I thought I have seen many 'resto-mod" cars that had stock suspension. I thought resto-mod meant "restored and modified". I did not know that the modification had to include steering and susupension. Thanks for the correction.We also cannot afford to build a fuel injected engine ($4000 +) or a modified suspension ($2000 +).This is a self-supporting school with a tight budget.

These kids see enough modern computerized garbage on the donated cars and customer cars they work on. The simplicity of the old cars is a refreshing, and fun, break from the umpteenth 199* Ford Taurus transaxle job,or Chevy 3.1 Manifold gasket leak.


Our emphasis is also shifting to body and paint. The kids will learn every facet of auto repair here, including fiberglass and upholstery. The students, whom the majority are interested in ricers with wings and fart cans, are beginning to appreciate the American Muscle car, and while they defend their ricers, they said "Wow, sweet!" when the wrecked 'vette was pulled into the shop on a hook. They'll never be the same! Now they know my generation got something right!

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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Sounds like you are teaching the right path. I'm sure with our help you can get some donated parts for the project. Maybe even some visits from sponsors.

Maybe Speeddirect, Zip, and some of the great guys will donate some parts for the cause. Are provide a discount.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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That sounds real neat, Budman. I wish I was better at fundraising, etc. But in the end I'm pretty much a gearhead and bodyman. Not sure how to approach companies for donations and such, but am willing to try. Thanks for the encouragement.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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I wouold recommend you visit some local car shows Vette specific shows if possible. I go to Carlisle every year and when you see thousands of vette all lined up those that have been radically modified stand out like a sore thumb. Usually because the work is half azzed and it shows. If you plan is to auction it DO NOT do radical body mods. Ground effects and a wing are the absolutely fasted way to cut the cars value in half!!!.

Add some bigger wheels perhaps flare the fenders an inch or two but that is it!!! Anyone looking to buy a 71 vette is looking to buy a classic and want it to look likew a classic. Guys that want neon and wings are gonna buy a 92 Supra not a 70 vette.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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I think any custom work done right will be appreciated. If not guys like BOYD CODDINGTON and Chip FOOSE would be out of business. Everytime I see one of their HIGHLY modified cars the price tag is $200k plus and there is a line to buy them even at that price. Resto-mod cars bring big money at BARRET JACKSON also. Usually more than boring restoration cars. Any one can restore a car but people with talent can build/modify/interpret a car and enhance it. GO for the MODS.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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>>>>>>>>>Guys that want neon and wings are gonna buy a 92 Supra not a 70 vette.<<<<<<<<<<<

We're not talking ricer wing and wild decals here. I have been buidling cars since I was twelve years old and have not ever destroyed one like that. We're talking about basically keeping the original body lines, but putting a Lt1 hood, flares, either moving the headlights below the bumper and smoothing the top, or rectangular lamps that are non-folding. Using a 68 front end (since the front end is wiped out beyond recognition anyway) instead the 71 because the "shark gills" look better than the big squares. Possibly removing the front bumper assy and most chrome because chrome, while popular on the '71 'vette, can be distracting on a custom. Retro Seventies wheels like maybe turbin or vector style. Single color paint job in black or red. Possibly accent stripes, but not "neon", and certainly not "tribal flames", "waves", "Paint drips" or any such ricer nonsense.
A 350 with small dual quads,with 280 series cam, roller rockers, gear drive, deep sump, lots of chrome and stainless, flowmasters (which it already has) with chrome headers.

No, most ricer fans cannot afford a car like this, but I am 42 years old and many of us middle aged guys who can afford one still like well-done, classy customs.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Sounds like you are a pretty awesome teacher by doing all this research, great car you picked out to mod. have fun, im sure the kids will love it, I know I would
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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Sounds like you have got a good handle on what you are going to do. Put together a parts needed list, and post it on here, you never know what may be donated to a good cause. Good luck, and keep us up to date with pics.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Oklahoma Academy
>>>>>>>>>Guys that want neon and wings are gonna buy a 92 Supra not a 70 vette.<<<<<<<<<<<

We're not talking ricer wing and wild decals here. I have been buidling cars since I was twelve years old and have not ever destroyed one like that. We're talking about basically keeping the original body lines, but putting a Lt1 hood, flares, either moving the headlights below the bumper and smoothing the top, or rectangular lamps that are non-folding. Using a 68 front end (since the front end is wiped out beyond recognition anyway) instead the 71 because the "shark gills" look better than the big squares. Possibly removing the front bumper assy and most chrome because chrome, while popular on the '71 'vette, can be distracting on a custom. Retro Seventies wheels like maybe turbin or vector style. Single color paint job in black or red. Possibly accent stripes, but not "neon", and certainly not "tribal flames", "waves", "Paint drips" or any such ricer nonsense.
A 350 with small dual quads,with 280 series cam, roller rockers, gear drive, deep sump, lots of chrome and stainless, flowmasters (which it already has) with chrome headers.

No, most ricer fans cannot afford a car like this, but I am 42 years old and many of us middle aged guys who can afford one still like well-done, classy customs.

maybe a ZL1 stripe or possible a Baldwin Motion stripe?
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Oklahoma Academy
>>>>>>>>>Guys that want neon and wings are gonna buy a 92 Supra not a 70 vette.<<<<<<<<<<<

We're not talking ricer wing and wild decals here. I have been buidling cars since I was twelve years old and have not ever destroyed one like that. We're talking about basically keeping the original body lines, but putting a Lt1 hood, flares, either moving the headlights below the bumper and smoothing the top, or rectangular lamps that are non-folding. Using a 68 front end (since the front end is wiped out beyond recognition anyway) instead the 71 because the "shark gills" look better than the big squares. Possibly removing the front bumper assy and most chrome because chrome, while popular on the '71 'vette, can be distracting on a custom. Retro Seventies wheels like maybe turbin or vector style. Single color paint job in black or red. Possibly accent stripes, but not "neon", and certainly not "tribal flames", "waves", "Paint drips" or any such ricer nonsense.
A 350 with small dual quads,with 280 series cam, roller rockers, gear drive, deep sump, lots of chrome and stainless, flowmasters (which it already has) with chrome headers.

No, most ricer fans cannot afford a car like this, but I am 42 years old and many of us middle aged guys who can afford one still like well-done, classy customs.
This sounds like a great experience both for the teacher and the students. By all means document the work cause the rest of us are envious and want to see how it progresses.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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It's been nearly a week, when are we gonna see pictures of this thing??



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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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I have pics of this car, but have no idea how to post them. Usually on internet forums pics are downloaded using an attachment feature. It looks like here we need to actually create some type of address for them, which I do not know how to do. Earlier, I asked if I could email them to someone and have them post them, but no takers. I'll keep looking into how to post pics, but I'm really no computer expert.
But until then, think of a very nice red 71 'vette with no front end at all, no motor and plain jane wheels on the back with "spares" on the front.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dfellinger
On top of the gas tank.
TAKE PHOTOS before removing the build sheet. Give it a protective coating and leave it for whoever buys the car...with the photo proof. Or did I read earlier that it was gone?
As for wild customs, check out my '66 and a friends '77 I helped him rebuild from a scrap car. They are about as far as you can go and still drive it...which we both do. Click on My Photos & show your kids what is possible at home in your garage! Of course I'm 61 years old now and it took most of those years to get to this level of craftsmanship. Give them the good start and let them be the next generation of Chips & Boyds! May God bless your activity. Glenn

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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I'd be happy to host at least some of your pics. Send them here


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my vette came from Ada.

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Oklahoma Academy
I have pics of this car, but have no idea how to post them. Usually on internet forums pics are downloaded using an attachment feature. It looks like here we need to actually create some type of address for them, which I do not know how to do. Earlier, I asked if I could email them to someone and have them post them, but no takers. I'll keep looking into how to post pics, but I'm really no computer expert.
But until then, think of a very nice red 71 'vette with no front end at all, no motor and plain jane wheels on the back with "spares" on the front.
It's easy to do. Sorry no one explained it to you yet.
It's free to set up a PHOTOBUCKET account and post all your pictures there. http://photobucket.com
When you want to post on forum, open a post, then go to photobucket, right click on the third box IMAGE, of the photo you want to use, then click copy.
Move back to your forum post, right click PASTE and it will show you text numbers like: for that photo you selected. Once you post it, the photo should come up like magic on the site. You can preview what it will look like by hitting preview before you hit submit.
Hope this helps. If you still can't do it, send to me @: SPOdie@cfl.rr.com and I'll be honored to help you. Glenn
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Glenn, you have some amazing pics there!!
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Okay, here goes nothing.


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...z/Pict0119.jpg



Ta da! Nothing like a wrecked Corvette to lift one's spirits, eh?
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Hmmm....
How 'bout this.


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