Gas Prices
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 2,507
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From: St. Louis Mo
Originally Posted by gliot1
I agree....we can't whine about the price of gas driving around in 25+ yr. old 350s! The C5s get as good as 34 mpg! Econo cars! Life sucks I may have to burn regular to do burn outs! 
I read an interesting point on the gas prices (not that I think the fule companies are f'ing us some) but if you cost adjust the price of gas from 1965 and adjust it for inflation, we are paying below the normal amount of inflation for the price of gas. We still are cheaper than most of the world. When I was in the UK in 1999, they were paying about $1.10 p/litre or $4.40 a gallon. We also use the biggest chunk of gas in the world. Now my personal opinion is we need to get off of gas and stick it to the Arab world. If they don't have money they can't buy thier little bombs and that's how we beat 'em! I think GM has the right approach with the E85 vehicles......we screw the oil producing nations and take care of our own farmers at the same time. Beyond that hydrogen cells could really put a nail in their coffin! The hybrids.....losers, unless they can get the price down. For what you have to pay for a hybrid you can buy a hell of a lot of gas. If we could get moving on this solutions quickly, you would see the price of a barrel of oil plummet.
I read an interesting point on the gas prices (not that I think the fule companies are f'ing us some) but if you cost adjust the price of gas from 1965 and adjust it for inflation, we are paying below the normal amount of inflation for the price of gas. We still are cheaper than most of the world. When I was in the UK in 1999, they were paying about $1.10 p/litre or $4.40 a gallon. We also use the biggest chunk of gas in the world. Now my personal opinion is we need to get off of gas and stick it to the Arab world. If they don't have money they can't buy thier little bombs and that's how we beat 'em! I think GM has the right approach with the E85 vehicles......we screw the oil producing nations and take care of our own farmers at the same time. Beyond that hydrogen cells could really put a nail in their coffin! The hybrids.....losers, unless they can get the price down. For what you have to pay for a hybrid you can buy a hell of a lot of gas. If we could get moving on this solutions quickly, you would see the price of a barrel of oil plummet.
We are having it stuck in our kazoos every day by these greedy bastards, who want to blame everything else but their greed. We need to start at home and clean up this sham.......
................LT
Race Director
Joined: Dec 1999
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Originally Posted by E_Tar
dude, I guarantee you i will stick to my guns.
See you again, when I have to pay $10 a gallon, I'll bring my vette and a 73 hemi charger too...
AND.. I will treat your tree hugger electric car and you to lunch.
See you again, when I have to pay $10 a gallon, I'll bring my vette and a 73 hemi charger too...
AND.. I will treat your tree hugger electric car and you to lunch.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Dallas via Honolulu TX
Originally Posted by 71_454_Green_Machine
One last thing. Don't buy into the crap about Hybrids. They dont work in Arizona. They only get good mileage when you DO NOT USE the A/C or Deforster. Turn on one of those babies and you get worse gas mileage than my clean diesel.
Race Director
Joined: Sep 1999
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From: Plano TX
Originally Posted by 71_454_Green_Machine
One last thing. Don't buy into the crap about Hybrids. They dont work in Arizona. They only get good mileage when you DO NOT USE the A/C or Deforster. Turn on one of those babies and you get worse gas mileage than my clean diesel.
Battery life is, though. Imagine the resale value of a hybrid that is out of battery warranty... new batteries were $8K last I checked. Maybe less now but still a big chunk of change.
Drifting
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Chino Hills CA
You know, we really control the price of gas. Can you even fathom this country using almost 400 million gallons of gas a day! That's almost 5000 gallons a second. Not only do we bitch and moan, we pay for this fuel every day. The oil companies, on the other hand, depend on us buying this much gas every day. If we used 10 or 20% less, they'd Have to drop the price. Now that doesn't mean you have to give up anything, just conserve a little. Everybody drives like they're in a race. If that lady in the Expedition would just go a little easier on the gas, she could get 16 miles to a gas, instead of 14. It's just supply and demand, and right now, we got a pretty good supply.
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Team Owner
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From: Virginia USA
Originally Posted by 1Cool80
It's a shame the U.S. won't build more refineries. That would help gas prices too. Too many politics.
And start drilling in Alaska. That will keep us going for a decade or so and by that time we should be able to get off our over dependence of oil.
Safety Car
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Columbia South Carolina
Originally Posted by kona
Take a look at Brazil 100% synthetic fuel from corn and suger cane. Not one stinking drop of petroleum based fuel do they use.
We need to do that and then let all the gougers who are currently putting it too us keep the crap. (sorry about the rant)
Kona
We need to do that and then let all the gougers who are currently putting it too us keep the crap. (sorry about the rant)
Kona
Just curious but how much are they paying per gallon for that stuf? I didnt think it was much cheeper because of the more involved refinment process. Anybody?
Race Director
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I don't know how recent ths is but it should give an idea, brazil at a little over 3$
Netherlands Amsterdam $6.48
Norway Oslo $6.27
Italy Milan $5.96
Denmark Copenhagen $5.93
Belgium Brussels $5.91
Sweden Stockholm $5.80
United Kingdom London $5.79
Germany Frankfurt $5.57
France Paris $5.54
Portugal Lisbon $5.35
Hungary Budapest $4.94
Luxembourg $4.82
Croatia Zagreb $4.81
Ireland Dublin $4.78
Switzerland Geneva $4.74
Spain Madrid $4.55
Japan Tokyo $4.24
Czech Republic Prague $4.19
Romania Bucharest $4.09
Andorra $4.08
Estonia Tallinn $3.62
Bulgaria Sofia $3.52
Brazil Brasilia $3.12
Cuba Havana $3.03
Taiwan Taipei $2.84
Lebanon Beirut $2.63
South Africa Johannesburg $2.62
Nicaragua Managua $2.61
Panama Panama City $2.19
Russia Moscow $2.10
Puerto Rico San Juan $1.74
Saudi Arabia Riyadh $0.91
Kuwait Kuwait City $0.78
Egypt Cairo $0.65
Nigeria Lagos $0.38
Venezuela Caracas $0.12
Netherlands Amsterdam $6.48
Norway Oslo $6.27
Italy Milan $5.96
Denmark Copenhagen $5.93
Belgium Brussels $5.91
Sweden Stockholm $5.80
United Kingdom London $5.79
Germany Frankfurt $5.57
France Paris $5.54
Portugal Lisbon $5.35
Hungary Budapest $4.94
Luxembourg $4.82
Croatia Zagreb $4.81
Ireland Dublin $4.78
Switzerland Geneva $4.74
Spain Madrid $4.55
Japan Tokyo $4.24
Czech Republic Prague $4.19
Romania Bucharest $4.09
Andorra $4.08
Estonia Tallinn $3.62
Bulgaria Sofia $3.52
Brazil Brasilia $3.12
Cuba Havana $3.03
Taiwan Taipei $2.84
Lebanon Beirut $2.63
South Africa Johannesburg $2.62
Nicaragua Managua $2.61
Panama Panama City $2.19
Russia Moscow $2.10
Puerto Rico San Juan $1.74
Saudi Arabia Riyadh $0.91
Kuwait Kuwait City $0.78
Egypt Cairo $0.65
Nigeria Lagos $0.38
Venezuela Caracas $0.12
Le Mans Master
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: In The Hardwoods Up North
1965
3 bedroom brick house $12,000
one gallon of gas 30 cents
2006
3 bedroom brick house 10 x $12,000 = $120,000?
one gallon of gas 10 x 30 cents = $3.00
probably can't buy that house now for $120,000
3 bedroom brick house $12,000
one gallon of gas 30 cents
2006
3 bedroom brick house 10 x $12,000 = $120,000?
one gallon of gas 10 x 30 cents = $3.00
probably can't buy that house now for $120,000
Safety Car
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,855
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From: Columbia South Carolina
Originally Posted by 78SA
1965
3 bedroom brick house $12,000
one gallon of gas 30 cents
2006
3 bedroom brick house 10 x $12,000 = $120,000?
one gallon of gas 10 x 30 cents = $3.00
probably can't buy that house now for $120,000
3 bedroom brick house $12,000
one gallon of gas 30 cents
2006
3 bedroom brick house 10 x $12,000 = $120,000?
one gallon of gas 10 x 30 cents = $3.00
probably can't buy that house now for $120,000
Instructor
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 218
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From: Waverly NY
I know here in new york there is over 60 cents per gallon in state tax. Take the cost of gas $3.15 subtract the .60 then subtract the federal tax and gas seems alot more reasonable. So it not just the oil companies dipping into our wallets, it's the government as well.
Kipp
Kipp
Le Mans Master
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From: Tracy California
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
What's your problem you little chestbeater. First you insinuate I have to save up my pennies to even be able to drive my cars, can you look into my wallet? You sure are the big spender, a 20$ fill up, a 15$ lunch..you must be eating truffles and caviar. And now you insinuate I will be driving an electric car? I will just ignore you, a sad person like you will certainly do well on this forum..N00b!
Well, If I have hurt your sensibilities, I do apologise.
you may recall I tried to make conversation about your country and i even put in smileys. why are you getting so upset ?
I just have a more philosophical opinion about taking this gas price thing in your stride, because face it, we are powerless against it... no matter what we say about conserving.
just enjoy your car Twin_turbo... discussing gas prices are like discussing politics. hopeless.
Le Mans Master
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From: In The Hardwoods Up North
Originally Posted by 454_71Stingray
Not to try to date anybody but what was an average houshold income in 1965? I am guessing about $6000 annually?
Le Mans Master
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 7,582
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From: In The Hardwoods Up North
I wonder what beer, bottle water or mouth wash is by the gallon? then subtract the tax's and take into consideration the super tankers, insurance, shipping half way around the world, refining, gas stations and trucking to gas stations, probably a fair price
Pro
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 581
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From: Southeast WI
I don't put a lot of miles on my Vette. Just a few brief pleasure trips on the weekends. The only thing the higher gas prices mean to me is being more judicous about stomping on the pedal from the stoplight. I have to decide if the clown in the lane next to me is gas-worthy. 
