Interior Heat
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Palmdale CA
Summit has them as "N/A", but no price either, nothing on Ebay either nor Amazon, nor anywhere!
I put in the PN (68309) and even called a half dozen places, that still had them on their website, but no go.
I think you'll have to wait for the pair on Ebay and do a 'saved search', so you'll know, when a pair hits the 'bay.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Palmdale CA
Also, some cars that do have this, have no problems, so it's been a really tough deal to diagnose.
Drifting
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Sonora CA
I just completed this project, (one of many) a couple of months ago. I insulated the transmission tunnel, (under the tunnel) not inside the cabin, there were several other small things I did also.
The results........... NO MORE HEAT! Everything stays at ambient. No more hot shifter and or console, no more hot air coming out of the vents. Just completed a 2 hour drive one way, a couple of weeks ago and everything stayed nice and cool.
BTW, one of the other project / up-grades was to replace the entire exhaust system with long-tube headers and pipes fabricated at a local shop.
The results........... NO MORE HEAT! Everything stays at ambient. No more hot shifter and or console, no more hot air coming out of the vents. Just completed a 2 hour drive one way, a couple of weeks ago and everything stayed nice and cool.
BTW, one of the other project / up-grades was to replace the entire exhaust system with long-tube headers and pipes fabricated at a local shop.
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Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,842
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From: Palmdale CA
I just completed this project, (one of many) a couple of months ago. I insulated the transmission tunnel, (under the tunnel) not inside the cabin, there were several other small things I did also.
The results........... NO MORE HEAT! Everything stays at ambient. No more hot shifter and or console, no more hot air coming out of the vents. Just completed a 2 hour drive one way, a couple of weeks ago and everything stayed nice and cool.
BTY, one of the other project / up-grades was to replace the entire exhaust system with long-tube headers and pipes fabricated at a local shop.
The results........... NO MORE HEAT! Everything stays at ambient. No more hot shifter and or console, no more hot air coming out of the vents. Just completed a 2 hour drive one way, a couple of weeks ago and everything stayed nice and cool.
BTY, one of the other project / up-grades was to replace the entire exhaust system with long-tube headers and pipes fabricated at a local shop.
Ain't that nice! No more cooking! I can hardly wait to get mine done, sheesh!
Melting Slicks
Joined: Aug 2012
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From: Titusville Florida
http://www.designengineering.com/cat...und-insulation
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Palmdale CA
Hey, while I was looking for header wrap (which will be delivered today), I ran across this stuff from the same company, sounds pretty good - what do ya think?
http://www.designengineering.com/cat...und-insulation
http://www.designengineering.com/cat...und-insulation
What I like about it, is that you can mount it to the outside of the firewall, versus most of the products, which are mounted on the inside.I got my headers yesterday and they are beautiful! Too bad, I'll be wrapping them, before I put them on. My old ones were ceramic coated too, with little difference in the heat coming through the firewall.
I may just order the big kit, to cover the trans tunnel as well. We're going to be starting on it, next week.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Apr 2012
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From: Bowmanville Ontario
Hey, while I was looking for header wrap (which will be delivered today), I ran across this stuff from the same company, sounds pretty good - what do ya think?
http://www.designengineering.com/cat...und-insulation
http://www.designengineering.com/cat...und-insulation
Ken
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Melting Slicks
Joined: Aug 2012
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From: Titusville Florida
What I like about it, is that you can mount it to the outside of the firewall, versus most of the products, which are mounted on the inside.I got my headers yesterday and they are beautiful! Too bad, I'll be wrapping them, before I put them on. My old ones were ceramic coated too, with little difference in the heat coming through the firewall.
I may just order the big kit, to cover the trans tunnel as well. We're going to be starting on it, next week.
I too like the idea of applying it on the outside/underside. I already have a heat/sound barrier under the carpet that I'm sure does hold a little of the heat out but is just not enough...
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Palmdale CA
yeah my new headers, sitting in our "sitting" room, sure are perdy and like you I hate to wrap them but I hate the oppressive heat in the cabin more!
I too like the idea of applying it on the outside/underside. I already have a heat/sound barrier under the carpet that I'm sure does hold a little of the heat out but is just not enough...
I too like the idea of applying it on the outside/underside. I already have a heat/sound barrier under the carpet that I'm sure does hold a little of the heat out but is just not enough...
Also, have to get the whole exhaust system redone too. It's all brand new, including the Flowmasters, but it's routed by idiots! I'd also like to put in a removable "H" pipe across it as well, as that adds to the performance too.
Melting Slicks
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From: Titusville Florida
Yep, me too! Gawd... I hope this cures this, once and for all and I can report on this. I'd love to see your input too. You might have yours on the car before me! I've got the dash apart, trying to figure out the culprit of the electrical mishap that I had Sunday.
Also, have to get the whole exhaust system redone too. It's all brand new, including the Flowmasters, but it's routed by idiots! I'd also like to put in a removable "H" pipe across it as well, as that adds to the performance too.
Also, have to get the whole exhaust system redone too. It's all brand new, including the Flowmasters, but it's routed by idiots! I'd also like to put in a removable "H" pipe across it as well, as that adds to the performance too.
Sorry to hear about your wire issue, man that scares the hell out of me
Melting Slicks
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From: Titusville Florida
Well it's that time of year again, the dreaded foot roaster is going to once again become an issue. As I said in the post above I haven't been able to install my new wrapped headers along with exhaust, maybe later this summer I will have it installed.
I did however just ordered some "zero clearance heat shield" and have high hopes that it will at least help with keeping the heat down. The company I bought it from is not a forum sponsor so I won't post the link but if anyone is interested send me a PM and I'll give you the link.
Looks like I need to get off my can and on the stick to get the underneath and part of the firewall cleaned so I can stick the heat shield on.
Will report back when I'm done, should be a couple of weeks
I did however just ordered some "zero clearance heat shield" and have high hopes that it will at least help with keeping the heat down. The company I bought it from is not a forum sponsor so I won't post the link but if anyone is interested send me a PM and I'll give you the link.
Looks like I need to get off my can and on the stick to get the underneath and part of the firewall cleaned so I can stick the heat shield on.
Will report back when I'm done, should be a couple of weeks
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Palmdale CA
Well it's that time of year again, the dreaded foot roaster is going to once again become an issue. As I said in the post above I haven't been able to install my new wrapped headers along with exhaust, maybe later this summer I will have it installed.
I did however just ordered some "zero clearance heat shield" and have high hopes that it will at least help with keeping the heat down. The company I bought it from is not a forum sponsor so I won't post the link but if anyone is interested send me a PM and I'll give you the link.
Looks like I need to get off my can and on the stick to get the underneath and part of the firewall cleaned so I can stick the heat shield on.
Will report back when I'm done, should be a couple of weeks
I did however just ordered some "zero clearance heat shield" and have high hopes that it will at least help with keeping the heat down. The company I bought it from is not a forum sponsor so I won't post the link but if anyone is interested send me a PM and I'll give you the link.
Looks like I need to get off my can and on the stick to get the underneath and part of the firewall cleaned so I can stick the heat shield on.
Will report back when I'm done, should be a couple of weeks
I've got to do the same thing! I drove it in 98 degree weather the other day and it was a rolling Toaster Oven, I swear to God. I baked like a Tater Tot in my Corvette! The headers are sitting there, the wrap is in the box, along with the Remflex gaskets. I need to get off my can as well and get the headers installed!
Melting Slicks
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From: Titusville Florida
I've got to do the same thing! I drove it in 98 degree weather the other day and it was a rolling Toaster Oven, I swear to God. I baked like a Tater Tot in my Corvette! The headers are sitting there, the wrap is in the box, along with the Remflex gaskets. I need to get off my can as well and get the headers installed!
but they are done. I will probably wrap the muffler pipe as well just for a little extra insulation. I am very interested in seeing how well this zero clearance heat shield will work. For $100 I hope it does something positive! We haven't gotten over about 95* here yet and I only drove home from work that day, takes about 30 - 35 minutes so there wasn't a great deal of heat soak but I think my Dewitts radiator has helped a bit there too, well that's what I'm telling myself after spending the money on that
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Palmdale CA
Done! I wrapped the block huggers with the DEI (Design Engineering) Titanium Exhaust Wrap and I'm happy with how they came out! The steel bands that I purchased, just sucked. You're way better off, using wire (not hangar wire) as you can get the wire, very very tight.
A helpful note about wrapping with the Ti wrap. It is soft and flexible. No need to soak or moisten it. You don't have to wire it at the beginning. What you do, is pull the first layer over the end, really hard and then after the third or fourth wrap, the end you started with, will hold fast. You can also twist the wrap like a motorcycle throttle to tighten it up as well.
It took a few redo's, but it came out nice. BTW, buying a 100 feet was worth it! It took four feet for each end tube! And it took over seven feet to do the center pair!!! And that's for each side! I'm glad to have leftover, as I'm going to wrap the entire exhaust pipe, coming from the bottom of the collector, as far as it will go!
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A helpful note about wrapping with the Ti wrap. It is soft and flexible. No need to soak or moisten it. You don't have to wire it at the beginning. What you do, is pull the first layer over the end, really hard and then after the third or fourth wrap, the end you started with, will hold fast. You can also twist the wrap like a motorcycle throttle to tighten it up as well.
It took a few redo's, but it came out nice. BTW, buying a 100 feet was worth it! It took four feet for each end tube! And it took over seven feet to do the center pair!!! And that's for each side! I'm glad to have leftover, as I'm going to wrap the entire exhaust pipe, coming from the bottom of the collector, as far as it will go!
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Melting Slicks
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From: Titusville Florida
Looks great, good job and yeah the steel bands do suck, you can't get them tight and as big of a pain as it was to wrap the headers I'd hate for them to come unwrapped, especially after I get them on the car
and yeah the steel bands do suck, you can't get them tight and as big of a pain as it was to wrap the headers I'd hate for them to come unwrapped, especially after I get them on the car
Le Mans Master
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From: Palmdale CA
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!My experimental vehicle: Trans-tunnel on my '34 street truck......NO interior heat for 5 years.......(the firewall is covered also--inside too)
Melting Slicks
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From: Titusville Florida
I have some under-body self adhesive coming shortly, will be doing the firewall and floor pan. Will also do the trans tunnel once (or if I can ever get it), my 5 speed.
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