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It was a rough day but I managed to get an hours work done on the underside of the deck.........by the way------this is NOT the way it should be done.........but the wooden slats held the tail light clip flush with the deck.......
???? I do not see ANYTHING WRONG ion what you did. Actually...apply a layer of two of mat and resin to hold your part in place and then going back in after taking the slats out is actually SMART..and what I would do.
But if you want a suggestion ...it is better to not to try to apply too many layers upside down...they can fall. I prefer to apply the layers in different steps to get the thickness I want and be able to span out the pieces of fiberglass to get the seam really reinforced.
Originally Posted by doorgunner
This pic is taken looking up and to the rear of the deck and the tail light clip.....I used only one screw in the seam to pull the upper and lower slats against the fiberglass parts.....this is the first layer of woven cloth cut to fit between the slats....once these patches cure I will remove the stats and then add the next layers which will be full-length.......
Keep this in mind...trying to run a piece of woven fiberglass FULL LENGTH just might prove to be more of a pain in the backside than it is worth. As you know....there is NOTHING wrong in applying sections of fiberglass in more manageable lengths.
Probably why they used pre-made bonding strips. I know when i glassed the cockpit of my 34 Hatteras back on after doing the fuel tanks it was BIG fun laying under there pushing strips of wetted mat up there. Resin in your hair is muy unpleasanto!
Probably why they used pre-made bonding strips. I know when i glassed the cockpit of my 34 Hatteras back on after doing the fuel tanks it was BIG fun laying under there pushing strips of wetted mat up there. Resin in your hair is muy unpleasanto!
Hey DG, even though you got gravity working against you, what you're doing with the fiberglass will turn out having more structural integrity than bonding strips. It should be as strong as if it was one piece. Keep up the great work, you're an inspiration to us all.
Hey DG, even though you got gravity working against you, what you're doing with the fiberglass will turn out having more structural integrity than bonding strips. It should be as strong as if it was one piece. Keep up the great work, you're an inspiration to us all.
That's how I was thinking I'd do it to bond my 69 rear on my 79. Too bad the wooden slats idea won't work because of the curved rear of the 79.
Thanks Members! I was worried about applying a solid piece. It's good to know that sections will work.
I still need to put mat down the sides of the quarterpanels before I remove the slats.
I read that the residue on the surface of cured fiberglass can be removed with a good detergent and scotchbrite pads........
Simply amazing work DG! You're not afraid of tackling anything are you? You could play for the Alabama defense! Sorry just had to get that in there! LOL! It is amazing how you even think of some of that stuff to get into! You got a great thing going! Keep it up!
Simply amazing work DG! You're not afraid of tackling anything are you? You could play for the Alabama defense! Sorry just had to get that in there! LOL! It is amazing how you even think of some of that stuff to get into! You got a great thing going! Keep it up!
Thanks Andy.....but it's the 10 foot camera shots that make it look good
Alabama=Yep....we kinda' saw that one coming!
Stuff that I get into=Brain damage from being a doorgunner!
Keep it up=As soon as the nightly meds wear off I'll go to the garage!
Hey Tony.
I've been really self-centered those lastest months, not checking out much what other people were doing.
My paint craze is over and I now have much more time in my hand, I will try to keep a closer eyes of fellow restomoder's thread like yours.
Impressive work on the gas tank, I wish I could weld (both knowing how and having the space/ressource to do so).
Keep it up, may it be day by day or hour by hour, we'll get there eventually.
Doorgunner, the best to you on this Veterans' Day. Thanks for serving.
Thanks J.C. It was a toss-up between having survived combat and having to deal with the second year of my great Son-in-law's losing his battle with cancer. This is also the same week my Son was killed. "One day/one hour/one minute at a time".
Thanks RBird.......I'll try to get in the garage an hour each day, despite the emotional let-down lately. I'll check out the post.
Originally Posted by Hale584
It's looking great! Keep after it!
Glen
Thanks Glen........"let me see if I can yank up my boot-straps!"
Originally Posted by Denpo
Hey Tony.
I've been really self-centered those lastest months, not checking out much what other people were doing.
My paint craze is over and I now have much more time in my hand, I will try to keep a closer eyes of fellow restomoder's thread like yours.
Impressive work on the gas tank, I wish I could weld (both knowing how and having the space/ressource to do so).
Keep it up, may it be day by day or hour by hour, we'll get there eventually.
Thanks Denpo.....those 11 pinholes in the weld did me in....I had to get away from the tank for a while and decided to work on the rear deck/tail light clip again. I had ONE day of low humidity/no rain so I practiced installing a few bonding patches under the deck......they should be cured by now.......but the humidity is up and the rain is back/no fiberglassing until the sun returns
It's probably good timing with the weather though....it will give me time to "get myself together" enough to face the memorial in 6 days of my Son's death....he was (is) 20 years old.
You guys hang in there!
Last edited by doorgunner; Nov 12, 2015 at 02:34 PM.
I read that the residue on the surface of cured fiberglass can be removed with a good detergent and scotchbrite pads........
could the residue be removed with acetone?
If you are referring to wet un-cured resin that gets on a surface...YES...acetone can be used. If it gets on cured paint you have to be quick with the acetone. Apply it and get it off right away....let that dry out for a minute and do it again. ON FRESH PAINT...you are screwed.
If you are referring to wet un-cured resin that gets on a surface...YES...acetone can be used. If it gets on cured paint you have to be quick with the acetone. Apply it and get it off right away....let that dry out for a minute and do it again. ON FRESH PAINT...you are screwed.
DUB
Thanks Dub......acetone instantly removed the drips on the garage floor under the car (because I was too lazy to lay down cardboard). The only new paint is on the hood and the hardtop....I'll be sure to remove the hood when I start on the front grill area (it would be like me to fumble a cup of resin onto the hood somehow!)
I managed to remove most of the wooden slats across the top of the deck.....then go underneath and patch the gaps left by the slats. I'll try to work my way down the quarter panels with mat/resin tomorrow...
I was surprised how strong one layer woven mat can be....once the whole underside seam is covered I will scrub it, then add another layer of woven mat. I decided to go with 5" wide patches.
The more at look at that frame, the more I am positive that it will get a heated bath to remove the internal and external rust (in my younger days I worked at a company that was licensed to "boil" frames.....they came out of the tank solid grey after a day or two submerged in the huge heated vat.
And......Yes......I'm being highly optimistic at the moment about getting some work done tomorrow
8/18/2017 Adding more pics...................................
Last edited by doorgunner; Aug 19, 2017 at 12:16 AM.
If anything I can add is that when you grind down what you applied so you can add more....depending on the type of resin you used....when you go back and laminate in more....make the patches in sections/lengths that you know you can easily handle and control. A wise move if you have not figured it out is wearing head sock like painters use when painting. Resin hair is NO fun to get out.
A 5" by 8" section is all I can handle without the resin starting to thicken. I'm using the Bondo resin underneath the deck to learn with, and I am saving the good stuff for the visible seams. I also learned to keep the box of rubber gloves and acetone within reach.
And I thought that rebuilding a trailing arm was hard.
A 5" by 8" section is all I can handle without the resin starting to thicken. I'm using the Bondo resin underneath the deck to learn with, and I am saving the good stuff for the visible seams. I also learned to keep the box of rubber gloves and acetone within reach.
And I thought that rebuilding a trailing arm was hard.
QUESTION: How long is it taking your resin to thicken and no longer be viscous???
The reason I am asking...is that if you are mixing the resin and applying it and all you can do it get one layer of 5" x 8" cloth in place. It seems to me that you have too much hardener in your resin. You should have more work time.
And I know it is too late. But...why would you not use GOOD resin for the entire project. I understand that it is all on the underside of the panel...BUT...what it is doing is VERY IMPORTANT...and you are in essence...relying on this laminated area to last.
QUESTION: How long is it taking your resin to thicken and no longer be viscous???
The reason I am asking...is that if you are mixing the resin and applying it and all you can do it get one layer of 5" x 8" cloth in place. It seems to me that you have too much hardener in your resin. You should have more work time.
And I know it is too late. But...why would you not use GOOD resin for the entire project. I understand that it is all on the underside of the panel...BUT...what it is doing is VERY IMPORTANT...and you are in essence...relying on this laminated area to last.
DUB
Thanks for taking the time to advise me.........
It takes about 10 minutes for the resin to thicken like pudding....being a rookie I am going very slowly....I am putting 8 drops per ounce of resin....after an hour I can dent the patch with my fingernail.
I wanted to use the Bondo resin to learn with in case it didn't hold. It seems that I cleaned and prepared to underside of the deck and the tail light clip correctly. I have tried to break the patchwork aloose with a gasket scraper but could not separate it---it seems to have become thoroughly joined to the original body fiberglass.
Today was another rough day psychologically/emotionally....so I didn't do any work on the car.
A 5" by 8" section is all I can handle without the resin starting to thicken. I'm using the Bondo resin underneath the deck to learn with, and I am saving the good stuff for the visible seams. I also learned to keep the box of rubber gloves and acetone within reach.
And I thought that rebuilding a trailing arm was hard.
Dub......I gave you the wrong information........
I can apply 3 sections before the resin thickens.
Since I am very slow at doing this, I now mix only enough resin to apply 2 sections at a time......then there is no wasted resin mixture.
Last edited by doorgunner; Nov 14, 2015 at 03:29 PM.
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