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Old May 2, 2022 | 10:46 AM
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Nice car,

I like to use the machined vertical surface where the u-joint strap bolts rather then an as cast surface. I feel it is more accurate.
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Ditto. Use the machined vertical machined edge surface of the trans yoke, and the diff yoke, after pulling the driveshaft.
You bought a Tremec right from Silversport?
Here is some info from them:
https://shiftsst.com/blog/post/drive...Spicer%20table.
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Old May 3, 2022 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperBuickGuy
I shimmed mine - clearance and drive line angles were just fine
Thanks - this sounds promising.

Originally Posted by 69schemers
Nice car,

I like to use the machined vertical surface where the u-joint strap bolts rather then an as cast surface. I feel it is more accurate.
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Ditto. Use the machined vertical machined edge surface of the trans yoke, and the diff yoke, after pulling the driveshaft.
You bought a Tremec right from Silversport?
Here is some info from them:
https://shiftsst.com/blog/post/drive...Spicer%20table.
Thanks guys! This is very helpful information. I'm pretty sure I will be able to make meaningful measurements now. Using planes at 90 degrees from the axles is a trick I had not thought about.
(I did get a TKO600 from SST)

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Old May 7, 2022 | 04:30 PM
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I have been busy doing basic maintenance on the Alpine this week but managed to measure the 3 angles yesterday. I have a bad case of the W configuration - it's out of whack:


Engine to Driveshaft Angle: 3.2 - 2.0 = 1.2 degrees.
Driveshaft to Differential Angle: 2.0 + 1.6 = 3.6 degrees.
That's too much of a delta.



A little bit of math shows that if I raise the differential at the snubber by 1/3", I'll get good numbers:

Engine to Driveshaft Angle: 3.2 - 1.3 = 1.9 degrees.
Driveshaft to Differential Angle: 1.3 + 0.6 = 1.9 degrees.
A perfect match!


Now, how to raise the differential by 1/3"?

#1. Torque the snubber bolt . It wasn't torqued at all. Torquing it and thus compressing the rubber takes care of about 1/10".

#2. For the remaining 1/4", I wonder if I can cut off 1/4" from my rubber and steel guide:


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When you retorqued the snubber...the drive shaft angle also changed.....I think?

What is the new angle of the drive shaft?

What is the new angle of engine-to-drive shaft?

And the new angle of drive shaft to differential?

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Old May 8, 2022 | 12:54 AM
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You're right DoorGunner, after torquing the numbers are better:

Engine to Driveshaft Angle: 3.2 - 1.8 = 1.4 degrees.
Driveshaft to Differential Angle: 1.8 + 0.9 = 2.7 degrees.

Not quite where I want them to be yet. Current plan of record: cut off 1/8" of the bushing's rubber and steel, then measure again. I think I will be golden then.

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Give Dan at Van Steel a call.
They offer a Derlin rear crossmember bushing kit that raises the rear differential.
They advertise 3/4” but I’ve read that measurement does vary.
Dan can help you with the drive shaft angles and I believe they also offer different bushing kits to set up the angles.
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Originally Posted by RBrid
You're right DoorGunner, after torquing the numbers are better:

Engine to Driveshaft Angle: 3.2 - 1.8 = 1.4 degrees.
Driveshaft to Differential Angle: 1.8 + 0.9 = 2.7 degrees.

Not quite where I want them to be yet. Current plan of record: cut off 1/8" of the bushing's rubber and steel, then measure again. I think I will be golden then.
Keep us updated...I also heard that the diff. "rises" a certain amount and maintains the rise-angle while the car is being driven at a "constant speed".

Setting up a secure "pointer" aimed at a yellow dot on the side of the diff. could help determine the angle of rise on your specific car at highway speeds...
setting up a GoPro to record the event under driving conditions is "another Animal".

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Old May 8, 2022 | 11:38 AM
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RATS! Now I need to check the angles on my driveline since the previous owner DIYed the one-piece trans mount to fit a TH400...

good thing it will be easy to check-correct since its been on tall jack stands for the last 3 years
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Thanks doorgunner and OldCarBum. I got in touch with Van Steel but they only offered that 3/4" raise which was way too much for me. I needed a 1/8" lift.

I ended up ordering a new polyurethane kit because on the ad picture it looked thinner than my rubber bushing. When it came, it was in fact as thick as the rubber one, so... I sawed off some of its material and landed on reasonable angles:

























And the approximate result:




Engine to Driveshaft Angle: 3.2 - 1.2 = 2.0 degrees.
Driveshaft to Differential Angle: 1.2 + 0.8 = 2.0 degrees.

I call it a day.

Thanks for taking a peek!
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Nice work as always!
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Fabulous and meticulous!

At least your ideas help me, even if you are on the wrong "coast"! LOL
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Originally Posted by leigh1322
Fabulous and meticulous!

At least your ideas help me, even if you are on the wrong "coast"! LOL
That all depends on how you look at the world.
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So how are we ever going to cruise together in our Big Blocks?
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Leigh and I will drive from the east coast......meet you half way in St. Louis,......where they all started!!!!
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Now THAT is a great idea!
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I’m in for a coast to coast cruise!
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My vette won't be ready for years to come...

I visited Boston on the other coast recently, and it was beautiful!

My next post will be about a hot topic. Stay tuned...


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All right, time for an update.
My next step was to address all the clearancing issues with my Doug's headers. They were hitting the Steeroids u-joint and bracket, and came a bit too close to the chassis. I meticulously followed this educational video to dimple my headers:

Making room for the Steeroids u-joint, on the driver side:

I was amazed at how easily the propane torch got the SS red:


It is so satisfying to butcher a shiny new SS header:


Result: about 3/16" clearance with the u-joint:



Making room for the chassis, on the passenger side:



Result: 3/16" clearance with the chassis:



Making room for a pipe, on the passenger side:

Grinding the Steeroids bracket:


Repainted and re-installed:


Result: 3/16" clearance with pipe:



And the result:

All mounted, with Hooker reserve flow mufflers to start with. I might switch to louder and less restrictive mufflers later. We'll see...


The entire exhaust system will be ceramic-coated inside and out after a break-in period.


Thanks for taking a peek!
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