Guess this is another 'what does numbers matching mean?'.

'Restored' to me means returned to factory-original configuration and condition. This car is clearly not even close.

 

Guilty as charged. What exact car it was wasn't the point, that I didn't like it was.

 

Perhaps you could use the term "restomod" for such a car.

 

In this case I get the feeling that frame off means the car was wrecked and put back together, because it certainly hasn't been restored.

 

...a clairvoyant!

 

Again...THANX for all of the replies....I'm going to pass on this one....can't see payin' what he wants (not bad) then adding the cost of a total re-paint.....not "meant to be"

 

Patience Sluefoot,
It's easy to get caught up in the excitement of the prospect of buying your first Corvette.
Take your time, do your research, and buy the right car for you.

 

Smart move. Add the costs of undoing whatever went wrong during the 'restoration'.

 

What was it that went wrong during the restoration?

 

Dunno. You seem to have great enthusiasm for this car despite the many classic warning signs of it being a disaster. Maybe you could have a look and prove all of us wrong.

 

There's no truth to that.

I advised him to pass on the car and in your warped mind that's expressing great enthusiasm for the car. You're the one that thinks you're psychic and know its a disaster. I merely pointed out you (literally) have no idea what you're talking about.

 

I wish I were a billionaire like Mike. I know Mike's a billionaire because anyone with his skill at predicting wins the lottery any time he likes.

 

Hey Priya
Didn't they tell you that if it doesn't match the AIM exactly it has to be a disaster.

 

Some might say "restomod". I wouldn't. That's another term I have never liked, not sure where it originated, appears to mean different things to different people, and gets tossed out much too frequently. I'm not convinced it has any real meaning.

 

Quick question to Sluefoot after all the back and forth will you post your next potential vette Phil

 

Hopefully yes. The latest car he asked about offered an education in the slippery slimy terminology some sellers use. That's invaluable.

 

I heard it watching Barrett-Jackson auctions. Its a combination of "restored" and "modified", meaning a car that has been restored but not to factory original, i.e. for a example a C2 with an LS3 and a 5 speed, a C3 with C7 interior, or a 57 Ford truck with C4 suspension. Of course there are a wide variety of combinations that could be called "resto-mods" as its a general term, not a specific one, much like the word "colour" doesn't refer to any specific shade but still has meaning. Basically any car that's had its components restored but contains major parts that were not original equipment or available as original equipment.

 

I have seen it over and over here, nothing but negative comments when people post a car they "might" like to own,.
Some people can't afford pristine turn key and might not want it if they could afford it,
I guess the only cars the ones who spew negative comments would like is the cars they personally own.


I like "resto-mod" seems it sums it's self up pretty well, like what you are saying a car restored yet modded, it also seems to define the majority of c3's, even if the mods are mild they are still mods.
I can also see that the trend of most c3 owners desiring some mods might be scary to some people who only like numbers matching factory original, but the people who like original best should take pride in their cars and the more resto-mods that pop up will just make the factory stock cars that much more rare and unique,
I fully support people living out their car dreams, be that stock or mod and love that more and more low end c3's that some people call trash are being saved by the people who see them as treasures.

What do you wanna bet that when the po posts the next c3 he has interest in it too will get bashed...

 

If the car is potentially misrepresented or has obvious issues, I hope it gets bashed.

Isn't that why the noobs come here asking advice?

 

Mike at first impression and on the surface I couldn't agree with you more,
But as I think about it deeper flaws stand out.

"potentially" means not yet a fact.
Assumption, speculation and biases do seem to run amuck here, many if not most times some person posts a car they might have interest in there simply isn't enough information given for even the most savvy self appointed experts to come to some if not many of the disparaging conclusions they come to about said car in question. ( enter arrogance ).
Example if the ad says "restored" and we have one or two pictures that is not enough to know as fact the car wasn't restored.

In this case the op did say they were new to vettes,
Unless a person posts that he is new to vettes/cars I would never speculate that he/she is a Noob, or be insulting and speculate about their credentials as far as being about to tackle a project unlese they tell us how do we know their budget or if they desire turn key or low project or in between.

Seems mixed with negative replies are the comments about how the op can find better for that price or less yet I do not recall once a person posting several cars or even one for sale that they deem positive for the op to compare theirs to, no one helps the person find what they deem a good car.

I find it sad that so many cars and or parts out there for sale are possibly misrepresented or have oblivious issues, ( Biases aside modded and or custom is only an issue if the work is hack or or the buyer desires stock )
A clueless seller saying something stupid because they honestly believe it doesn't make them a criminal or their car worthless, without more info I wouldn't jump that the seller is a slippery slimy low life con man wanting to cheat someone.

Don't get me wrong I respect the wealth of info guys like you can offer, I personally don't care if you want to come off about as smooth as shark skin on 80 grit,
What I ask is base your conclusions on the car in question on facts not assumptions, speculations or biases.