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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 01:42 AM
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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This has been around for a while. It's a Lotus Elise but some great footage of driving skill from the back to the front in one lap.
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That was some hardcore charging at Bathurst. Love it!


Also, imagine going wheel to wheel at Grattan under the green with no coned off zones. It's what I categorize as a real "racy" track. And, that turn 3 (the first severely off-camber left) feels like you're going to just fall off of the planet, especially in the wet.


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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Anybody have any experience with this track? I drive by it frequently when visiting relatives in the midwest.
Mid-America Motorplex (Iowa): Nobody here with any first hand experience?
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Mid-America Motorplex (Iowa): Nobody here with any first hand experience?
Yes, 2-3 years ago some of our clients wanted to do a set of mid-west and the Atlanta road course in their historic race cars.

Mid-America is a very safe course. Nothing to hit and big run off areas. Very tire friendly almost to point of feeling slick. I don't drive ***** out 100% in cars that are not mine. Actually I don't really fit in the GT-40 because it is set up for the shorter owner.

What i'm saying is that for a beginners course it would be fun to go to HPDE or PDX class there. It is smooth asphalt without surprizes or blind over hill turns
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 03:14 AM
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anyone working on their car?
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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On my Vette I did all poly a-arms, bearings, ball joints, Speed Direct 600 pound springs for my Front QA-1 dual adjust, and new 13 inch rotors. I did a post on it.

One of our clients bought a ride last weekend in the 24 hours of daytona to get his experience level up. I take care of his 1967 Ford GT350R. We are busting *** putting the GT40 back together. We had it completely apart for a race prep because it is going to the historic 24 hours of Le' Mans. But since it is a real original the FIA from Europe sent some guys over to take pictures and catalog everything as future reference to eliminate clone cars from entering competition.

I'm doing the March ThunderHill California hmsa race in the March F2
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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George, I've been dying to ask what's the story on the Shadow fire at Infineon seen in your current avatar? Is that one of your customer's cars?
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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George, I've been dying to ask what's the story on the Shadow fire at Infineon seen in your current avatar? Is that one of your customer's cars?
The historic racing series is like a traveling road show. All these businesses like the one I work for who all have a set of clients. We arrive at the track and setup our big enclosable awnings the day or two before a race. So anyway over the years you start pitting with your friends and you help each other out. Our transport has the ability to weld anything and it is a money maker.

Well for years now we travel and pit next to the Shadow team. My specialty at the tracks is Hewland transaxles, lucas fuel injection, weber carbs, and brakes. So all those Can-Am cars like the Shadow have Lucas fuel injection, Hewland 5 speeds, and brakes. So I work on it at nearly every race we go to even though it is not our's.




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Skunk, I forgot the story. Well when you blow the motor and a rod kicks out the side of the aluminum block it sprays about 3 gallons of oil out on the hot headers. The fire was so intense that the halon fire bottles only slowed it down for an instant.

As a driver if you are on fire and can drive to the fire truck it is better than stopping along the course and wait for them to get the all clear that they can drive on the track and come to you. So when you are doing 120 mph on fire just head to the place on the course where the fire trucks are located.

You have a pretty good fire suite on anyway
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Vette80regon
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anyone working on their car?
Doing a couple things at the moment to take out some more weight:

1) Modifying an F-car tubular front sway bar to fit my suspension setup (and taking four pounds off the previous 1 1/8 inch bar setup).
2) Recently finished welding up the aluminum lower radiator crossmember (Five pounds lighter than the original steel unit).
3) Designing some aluminum seat brackets to install later C3 seats (should take about 30 pounds off the car compared to the '69 seats).
4) New engine under (painfully slow) construction. Should take about 100 pounds off the front end).
5) Rounding up additional aluminum material to eventually weld up a replacement for the stock radiator core support. (another four pounds, perhaps).

A couple of these items aren't high-number weight reductions, but I'm running out of ideas to cut the weight without it being obvious that the car has been lightened.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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4) New engine under (painfully slow) construction. Should take about 100 pounds off the front end).

Are you going with a Gen 1 SB aluminum block? If so can you share the build with us. Maybe a separate thread. I'm on the fence on whether to do anything with my Rodeck block.

Corvette owners of Mass is going to 2 new motorsports clubs this year. Monticello New York and New Jersey Motorsports park. They're both high end clubs so it will be exciting to have the opportunity to drive on a track that i can't afford to join.
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3) Designing some aluminum seat brackets to install later C3 seats (should take about 30 pounds off the car compared to the '69 seats).
I frequently take my passenger 1979 seat in and out. The adjustable seat bracket isn't all that heavy compared to the seat it's self.

IMO - The way to go on the drivers seat is something like a Sparco fiber seat that only weighs 12 pounds
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Are you going with a Gen 1 SB aluminum block? If so can you share the build with us. Maybe a separate thread. I'm on the fence on whether to do anything with my Rodeck block.

Corvette owners of Mass is going to 2 new motorsports clubs this year. Monticello New York and New Jersey Motorsports park. They're both high end clubs so it will be exciting to have the opportunity to drive on a track that i can't afford to join.
It's another big block engine. As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I'm trying to reduce weight but keep the car looking "stock", and I don't think many will notice the engine.



I'm building a standard bore engine, and it was a nightmare getting pistons with a C.R. I could feel comfortable with.
Our builds are different (sb vs bb), but I'd sure like to see you build that Rodeck.
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I frequently take my passenger 1979 seat in and out. The adjustable seat bracket isn't all that heavy compared to the seat it's self.

IMO - The way to go on the drivers seat is something like a Sparco fiber seat that only weighs 12 pounds
I might take the passenger seat out for some events, but keep the stock seat in just to maintain the stock look.
I've found it's a lot more fun to go fast in a "stock looking" Corvette (and watch people scratch their heads wondering why it runs as well as it does), rather than make it look too much like a racer, and then no one wonders why it's running quick.
Just my thing for amusement.
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Corvette owners of Mass is going to 2 new motorsports clubs this year. Monticello New York and New Jersey Motorsports park. They're both high end clubs so it will be exciting to have the opportunity to drive on a track that i can't afford to join.

Good for you! Last year some of our clients wanted to race there during the New England swing. I did not get to go

http://www.monticellomotorclub.com/
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Originally Posted by 72 RAY
Oh forgot!
Here's a video of one lap at buttonwillow Ca. with a lot of passing and a lotus that is purposely trying to hold me up. (so I won't beat his best lap time). Friendly competition.
http://members.***.net/keiferpkr/buttonwillow.wmv

Here's a picture of the car in action after I passed a porcshe and Mustang.
http://members.***.net/keiferpkr/racevette.jpg
Great video! I'm feeling like I need to try this, but don't want to make a complete a** of myself. Not having any experience with road course racding, I would thinjk the handling is better with the T-Tops in place, correct? Are they off for any reason besides heat?
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 10:51 PM
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Great video! I'm feeling like I need to try this, but don't want to make a complete a** of myself. Not having any experience with road course racding, I would thinjk the handling is better with the T-Tops in place, correct? Are they off for any reason besides heat?

T-tops do nothing for handling. You are better off removing them for weight savings. My club wanted me to have arm restraints when running with them off. Like either top is going to stay on during the first roll.
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What do you think would be better?

Should I get the wilwood aluminum calipers that bolt into the stock location or get superlite calipers?
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our stock brakes or for that matter any caliper that doesn't use some type of heat shielded piston is doomed for failure within just a few laps.

With Wilwoods you need to buy the optional "ThermLoc" pistons. You also need to read about what weight of car a caliper is intended for.

You want to get the biggest piston diameters for any type of caliper.
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