40.58 pounds.

 

Ok,
But here is my concern.
Now if were leaning out the Fuel to Air mixture wouldn't that start a chain of failures like burnt valves,cracked pistons,burnt valve seats???
My thought is fuel (aka) Gas was also a coolant and when you start going over the ratio of like 14:1 mixture that you were ok.
But if you start going under the ratio you started to have these problems.
Your thoughts???

 

My apologies if I "Revived" an old thread. I was updating the thread I started asking about retarding the timing on my 1972 LT1 to accommodate the hydrogen I am inducing, when this thread was revealed as a related topic. I can honestly say spending 22 yrs in the Navy have shown me a great deal of tech, this is one of them. yes this theory is been around for some years it was even used by some stock racers to augment combustion but the fuel crisis was not around.

My question to support the gentleman who started this post is: How many of you drives trucks with 5.0 liter and bigger who gets 17-19mpg in the city and 23-25 on the highway doing 75-80mph? I can name one, and several other diesel powered cars and trucks in my area. My sceintific definition this process should not work and thermodaynamics is not met to support what is taking place during the combustion process in any ICE. I did a high school lecture on the topic and the easiest way I can sum it up is:

normally during combustion one, I mean one spark plug generated the iginition, inducing hydrogen during the combustion cycle is like having hundreds of spark plug to iginite the air fuel mixture, hence instead of push the unburn fuel out the tail pipe, you burn it. what happens when you burn additional fuel, power and when you have additional power your power to weight ration changes.

another example I was able to do was take a lighter, many have seen this. take your standard lighter and turn it on, consider that the flame from a standard combustion process, now take a spray can of anything, it would flare up, consider that with hydrogen being induces. you can take 3" X 11" 316L SS plates and run them -NNNNN+. That's a Cathode (-) bipolar plates (N) and anode (+) attach a 12v to it from your car batt submerged them in a bucket of water with a little NaOH or KOH, even salt for the experiment purpose you will create HHO.

The process has become much simpler than when it was initially introduce to the general public, initially the "wet cell" (it got hot fast)was the unit, now a "Dry Cell" (you can run it for hours 4-8 hours at a time like most semi) are the prepared unit. The unit I designed does not store any hydrogen, it only store the solution mixture as the electrolyte and the scrubber (vinegar mixed with distilled water 50-50). The only extra step needed to be done is making sure the alt in the car is strong enough or upgrade to a high output one (vette has a 140 amp) at idle it produce 40 amp.

 

Timely, just the other day, I saw a news report where the US is using a new unmanned 100% hydrogen powered spy plane that will fly at 65,000 feet and stay up for a month at a time, mostly because the weight of the fuel needed has been eliminated. Of course, the cost for this is probably astronomical too.

 

Actually, it is thousands less and it is being used to augment the jet engines to lower heat, to quite the turbines and use less JP 5.

 

Well if that's really the case, the news media is about as accurate as usual

Here's a google that confirms the elevation but drops the time down to four days. Maybe I missed part of the story.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...e-phantom-eye/

 

Tree-huggers....

 

Too...much....BS.....and.....bad....scie nce......

Must...not...take...bait........

 

http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/h2.htm

 

This paragraph demonstrates at least 2 fundamental misunderstandings of the operation of an Otto cycle gasoline engine. Please go educate yourself on this first. Take off the aluminum foil hat. And then try to make a coherent post.

 

And the following includes 2 more.........


Ooops, must not take bait.

 

I know most of you discount the possibility of a device like this working... and yes it does violate the laws of Thermodynamics if it were to work as advertised... it does require more engergy to create they hydrogen then the hydrogen provides to the fuel supply.

The most recent and probable claim is that it is works because it uses the extra power that your alt produces when the rest of the system isn't using it... excess power(previously wasted energy).

I'm not entirely sure, but atleast on new vehicles the alt only kicks on for as much as it is needed...so there would be very little to no excess energy....

Whats the case for the alt in our old C3s? don't they run constantly?

I'm not going to try it.... but if you do..it may have some validity

 

Spin constantly? Yes.

Produce electricity? Only when needed.

 

Yeah, that's a really cool new feature. It's only been around for ... mmm ... 50 years or so.

 

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1977016170.pdf

I am not here to promote this and since everyone seems to have the ability to research negative media on the subject, try looking for research paper such as the on in the link. I use to be along everyone's opinion on this, but instead of going by what a third party is saying about it I decided to develop my won conclusion and started to build them and test them. the last test I wanted to do was on a carborated engine, since my wife wanted a corvette and it's the same era as the one NASA tested I wanted to re-create what theit process.

Have an opened mind, you might be surprised on the what you will see or discover. Yes, there's plenty of scammers out there that used this process to get rick quick and people fell for it. that was an unfortunate event/behavior but, as there's positive there will be negative.

 

I'm an (automotive) design engineer, and I love technical issues and challenges, but this thread is painful. I'm not trying to be a rude SOB, but can the hydrogen enthusiast PLEASE do a spellcheck or a proofread of his posts? It's so stinking annoying reading all the spelling and grammar errors that I am losing all confidence in the author's technical expertise and any interest in the topic.

(Cliff note: If you're going to write like a sixth grader, don't expect people to take you seriously.)

 

Good to know... there is the answer

 

I'm alternating between laughing and crying. We really do need to start teaching some basic science in school.

 

I agree, along with spelling and sentence structure.