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Old 03-28-2012, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by elle88
and Ferraris are very heavy too . if i recall correctly they should be in the 3700 lbs range.
so our C3 are not that heavy at the end: that's why i've been not that concerned in overall weight reduction on my car but focused more on unsprung weight and F/R byas ( i have kept the steel leaves spring in the rear, for example)

would be nice if someone would post a search of curb weight of the main modern sportcars, just to have a reference
My 07Z06 weighed 3150 or so (with a near full gas tank). I can weigh my 09Z06 if you want.
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Originally Posted by elle88
and Ferraris are very heavy too . if i recall correctly they should be in the 3700 lbs range.
so our C3 are not that heavy at the end: that's why i've been not that concerned in overall weight reduction on my car but focused more on unsprung weight and F/R byas ( i have kept the steel leaves spring in the rear, for example)

would be nice if someone would post a search of curb weight of the main modern sportcars, just to have a reference
My Ferrari 348ts only weighs 3200 lbs soaking wet. My Porsche 914-6 is about 2200lbs.



Old 03-29-2012, 02:37 AM
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last time that i've been at the racetrack we weighted a friend's C6 Z06 Ron Fellows edition and if i recall it was 3350 lbs ( full gas tank)

i don't know how precise but from a cars magazine

Ferrari 458 : 3066 lbs
Ferrari California: 3622 lbs
Lambo Murcielago : 3477 to 3900 ( 2 different models)
audi R8 : 3300 to 3600 (""""""""""""""""""""""""")
porsche gt3 : 3100
mercedes slr : 3888
mercedes sls : 3600

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Old 03-31-2012, 11:04 AM
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I just took the rear reinforcement bar off mine and my scale said 68 lbs.
Old 03-31-2012, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 79LQ4Vettte
I just took the rear reinforcement bar off mine and my scale said 68 lbs.
68 lbs., huh? That's a pretty good chunk of weight, man. That's, like, a 2% reduction in total weight. I'm not being sarcastic, 2% is a significant reduction.


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Old 03-31-2012, 11:39 PM
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Actually this is just the beginning of weight, there will be no front bar, no mote flip up hood and hinges, looking for a set of non power doors to cut up. Cars gonna make right around 600whp so less weight the better.
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This is a great thread, I was telling my wife about what some of you have done to save weight but she's not on board to do this to our vette, yet!
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Originally Posted by Shark Racer
Looks like I was tricked by Porsche curb weights. They're more optimistic than Chevrolet.

Just did a quick read, a regular Boxster is ~75 lb less than a Boxster S.

The S comes in between 2950-3050 "ready to run", no driver. (2006 model, limited options)

I honestly can't imagine taking much off of those cars without an immediate reduction in comfort. You can do headers and exhaust, I hear the factory exhaust weighs quite a bit.

I'd love to own a Boxster again.
I weighed my Boxter and it is 3060 lbs. My Vette is only 40 lbs heavier. Can someone please tell me how much weight is lost by doing the rack and pinion conversion?
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Wish I knew, but I'm following in your foot steps with my 1980!

BTW, do you have a video clip of that exhaust setup? I've had magnaflows on 4 of my past vehicles. And I'd really love to hear your setup.
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Originally Posted by Bee Jay
I weighed my Boxter and it is 3060 lbs. My Vette is only 40 lbs heavier. Can someone please tell me how much weight is lost by doing the rack and pinion conversion?
I didn't weigh the individual parts, but it's my guess that the R&P weight is pretty similar to the original assist cylinder and steering linkage weight. The net weight savings seems to be mainly the removal of the steering box weight (20#?). Another upside is that the net weight removed is off the left front, generally the heaviest corner of the car.

Another item to consider, many later GM p/s pumps are lighter weight than the Corvette OEM unit.
Old 02-10-2013, 10:07 PM
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I just completed my rear end swap. I went from my 80 lb 3.55 iron rear end to a 60 lb 3.73 Dana 44 aluminum rear end for a 20 lb loss. Not a plug and play like you would expect.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...onversion.html
Old 02-12-2013, 01:19 AM
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Maybe I missed it but what about a Serpentine Belt setup. Most of the aftermarket ones use billet aluminum wich should be a bit less. And they will use the Gen II PS pump wich is avalable in Aluminum. Good by to the Clutch Fan for Electric if that hasn't been done yet. I'm under the impresion that the 80-82 Frames are a bit lighter. Maybe You can change that out and save another 10lbs or so !
Old 03-04-2013, 08:58 PM
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3040 lbs.
I'm getting there.
Today on the scale. 1/4 tank of gas.

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I'm guessing the ultimate goal is under 3000lbs? I've always watched your threads with interest and applaud your efforts. Gotta love a 79!!
Old 03-04-2013, 10:04 PM
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That garage is impressively clean!!!!!! wow


Originally Posted by Bee Jay


Originally Posted by Bee Jay
3040 lbs.
I really would like to see how your Vett handles in person... I'm over 300 lbs more weight...... Sure would like to see the difference....

The rack and pinion is a great reduction... Got mine tightened up, Dave had the same problem and I showed him where it was loose.... Took me a month to find it myself!

You will notice the reduction in turning radius, but you will get used to that quickly.

The other negative, or positive thing depending how you look at it is you feel much more of the road in the wheel, and of you hit a hole or something you get a greater front wheel shimmy.... Good for track feel, bad for cruising.... Do wish it had a little more dampening...


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Gotta love a 79!!

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Old 03-05-2013, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bee Jay
3040 lbs.
I'm getting there.
Today on the scale. 1/4 tank of gas.
Congrats Bee Jay! I'm hoping to get mine down to 3k as well.
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Originally Posted by Bee Jay
I'm keeping the pop up headlights, but I would like to do the Firebird electric conversion.
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You came to mind the other day when I was working on the rear suspension (putting in C6 rear toe rods under the '69). Hardly had enough room to work in there due to the rear crossmember being in the way. Finally ended up cutting it out (15#, as I believe you mentioned), and I'll weld up a bolt-in aluminum replacement later.

Speaking of headlights, here's a minor item I did years ago.



Not a big weight reduction (even with the bigger holes I drilled later), but it's way up front, and as I'm sure you've experienced, it gets harder and harder to find places to pull weight out of these cars.

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Old 04-27-2013, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by elle88
last time that i've been at the racetrack we weighted a friend's C6 Z06 Ron Fellows edition and if i recall it was 3350 lbs ( full gas tank)

i don't know how precise but from a cars magazine

Ferrari 458 : 3066 lbs
Ferrari California: 3622 lbs
Lambo Murcielago : 3477 to 3900 ( 2 different models)
audi R8 : 3300 to 3600 (""""""""""""""""""""""""")
porsche gt3 : 3100
mercedes slr : 3888
mercedes sls : 3600
GM quotes the C6Z06 at 3080lbs. I have not weighted my 10 Z06 but bet its in the <3,100 lb ball park as other sources have quoted as well. Pretty much has to be in that category even with 505 HP to be able to do 0-60 in 3.6 secs!
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When does the car get so light that it won't stick in the curves? Just wondering if getting light does not have a down side. I am a pilot, so I am quite familiar with power to weight, but in the flying world you don't care about traction in curves. I am not suggesting weight loss won't improve things, but just raising the question. Is not the front to back weight balance important, the center of gravity of the car, etc. Duntov talks about the steel rear spring actually provided a low CG weight where the card needs it. All the weight reduction on the front end could possibly lose steering traction???? All questions to ponder.
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Originally Posted by iwasmenowhesgone
When does the car get so light that it won't stick in the curves? Just wondering if getting light does not have a down side. I am a pilot, so I am quite familiar with power to weight, but in the flying world you don't care about traction in curves. I am not suggesting weight loss won't improve things, but just raising the question. Is not the front to back weight balance important, the center of gravity of the car, etc. Duntov talks about the steel rear spring actually provided a low CG weight where the card needs it. All the weight reduction on the front end could possibly lose steering traction???? All questions to ponder.
The tires are trying to change the direction of all the weight. A lighter car would be faster all around compared to a "better balanced" car


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