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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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Removing the TA's is much easier if you use a elongated nut,the kind of nut that is used when you want to connect 2 lengths of threaded rod together, then screw two bolts all the way into the nut and position the assembely into the TA pocket in the frame. Then back out the bolts so they spread the walls of the pocket about a 1/16 of an inch. The TA's and all the shims can be removed quite easily reinstall TA's and shims in reverse. Remember to keep track of the shims so they or their replacment shims can be reinstalled to their original position. 3/8ths or 1/2 inch thread size should work.
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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where were you two weeks ago? lol!
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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Back out the bolts so they spread the walls of the pocket about a 1/16 of an inch.

I'm putting this little gem into my bag of tricks!

Thanks for sharing,
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 10:47 AM
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Wow, I'm happy you made it out alive!!!
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Hmmm... I cornered the Sawall's Blade market when I removed my T.A.s. I torched the rubber bushings as well which helped. In the end it was all for not. The T.A.'s were too badly corroded to reuse. So was my frame (oddly enough, everything else on the car was is decent shape except for the frame).
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 69ttop
Removing the TA's is much easier if you use a elongated nut,the kind of nut that is used when you want to connect 2 lengths of threaded rod together, then screw two bolts all the way into the nut and position the assembely into the TA pocket in the frame. Then back out the bolts so they spread the walls of the pocket about a 1/16 of an inch. The TA's and all the shims can be removed quite easily reinstall TA's and shims in reverse. Remember to keep track of the shims so they or their replacment shims can be reinstalled to their original position. 3/8ths or 1/2 inch thread size should work.
That is one hell of a great tip. Should even be mentioned in the tech tips if it's not already. Simple but effective.
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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The elongated nuts correct name is a rod coupling. Lou.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 77vetteluva
Went through the same nightmare myself last year. After wearing out a bunch of metal sawsall blades I tried one of those blades designed for cast iron pipe that has no teeth but has a bunch of abrasive grit instead. It went right through the bolt without any problem at all. Wish I used it first. Oh well..Live and learn!!!!
I used a tip from another post on this forum: while cutting, remove the blade and spray it with lube/cutting-oil, but don't spray the bolt. It keeps the blade alive longer by keeping it cool, but lets the heat stay in the bolt/shims so they cut easier.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 10:43 PM
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I just finished tearing the *** end out of my '81 for suspension rebuilding. I've got to say that all of the horror stories that I have read about removing the trailing arms were correct.

I was fortunate enough to pound the shock mounts out very easily. I felt blessed. Then on to the rusted shims and frozen front mounting bolts. I knocked on the bolts enough to know that those bad boys were not going to come out easily. So off to the Depot for a large supply of Sawzall blades. These bolts and shims had been soaking in penetrating oil for a few days. I guess that didn't matter. Seven Sawzall blades, many body (mine) nicks and scratches, lots of verbal abuse, and four hours later...those bitches were out!

I'd like to first thank the members of the C3 Tech Forum for preparing me for this mentally.

Secondly I'd like to thank my neighbors for not reacting to my many loud outbursts of profanity.
I just did the same thing you did. Fortunately my car has low miles so everything came out easily. The hard part is going to be taking the arms themselves apart
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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this picture nicely illustrates my current trailing arm rage. I spoke too soon in another thread when I said "the pivot bolt came right out". It actually came out most of the way and spins/slides freely but for the life of my I can't get it out the rest of the way. I can't fit any tools in the little pocket to grab the bolt head and I can't push the bolt through because there's about 1" of body panel in the way. I'm gonna try getting a really long thin pair of pliers to grip the bolt head to get it that last bit out of the trailing arm.

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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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There is a light at the end of the tunnel. You will be pleasantly surprised at how much better your car will feel when it's done. I was shocked at how much difference it made.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by brianPA
Can you get a vice grip on the exposed bolt shaft (the part where you have the line drawn and labeled "bolt 80% out")?

If so, clamp a vice grip tightly on it then you can the side of the vice grip and hopefully get the bolt to move. If that doesn't work you might be able to fit a pickle for in there and use the vice grip to pry against.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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I visited Trailing Arm Hell with a buddy few months back, its a bad place to be.

I promise to be good from now on
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin_73
Can you get a vice grip on the exposed bolt shaft (the part where you have the line drawn and labeled "bolt 80% out")?

If so, clamp a vice grip tightly on it then you can the side of the vice grip and hopefully get the bolt to move. If that doesn't work you might be able to fit a pickle for in there and use the vice grip to pry against.
I got 'em both out today but it was far from graceful. I wasn't able to fit vice grips in there but I ended up wrapping a wrench larger than the bolt head around it and holding it tight against the frame while jiggling the trailing arm until the bolt worked out. It scored the bolts pretty good so I might as well have cut 'em off to begin with. Thought this would be easier.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LS4 PILOT
I visited Trailing Arm Hell with a buddy few months back, its a bad place to be.

I promise to be good from now on
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 10:42 AM
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Working on these old Vettes is one of those things that our Fathers told us "Builds Character". A year from now, after you've done a lot more to your Vette, you may look back and say "Trailing Arms? they weren't so bad". The Bird Cage, or Ball Joints, or the Dash wiring, now THAT was BAD!

Happy to hear you're making progress,
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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I've already been to the dash wiring "rodeo".

Don't forget the power brake booster replacement fun we all experience as well.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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I've already been to the dash wiring "rodeo".

Don't forget the power brake booster replacement fun we all experience as well.
now theres a club that i dont want to join
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Street Rat
I've already been to the dash wiring "rodeo".

Don't forget the power brake booster replacement fun we all experience as well.
I thought the brake booster removal was quite easy too be honest, just have the right socket extensions, job done

dave
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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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Now everything is back together. She's cruising down the road again.

I put the trailing arm bolts back in by attaching fishing line to the bolt and pulling the bolt through. WHAT A TIP THAT WAS! Now the "hell" is long gone but the memory remains. The payoff was worth the pain.

The trailing arms were rebuilt by tracdogg2 to perfection. The car handles like a dream. I had the rear alignment set this week. Putting anti-seize on the shims helped the technician get the newly installed shims out for readjustment.

Now it's on to the front suspension. I've purchased all Moog replacement parts. Let the "hell" begin...
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