More seat issues
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Melting Slicks
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More seat issues
More to my seat issue. This caused my seat issue the top stop got hooked under the bottom so it wouldn't flip forward leading to the button getting broke. Anyone dealt with this? Remedies? Thanks in advance for input.
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Hi c,
It seems to me that there could be several causes:
Are the hinge bolts in good condition… could they be causing the seat back to be misaligned with the seat bottom?
Are the 'welded in place' nuts on both the seat back and seat base in good condition… have any of them been broken loose from the frame?
Are all 4 of the 'seat bumper bolts' in good condition? Have any of their threaded shafts been bent from being perpendicular to the round pad?
???
Regards,
Alan
It seems to me that there could be several causes:
Are the hinge bolts in good condition… could they be causing the seat back to be misaligned with the seat bottom?
Are the 'welded in place' nuts on both the seat back and seat base in good condition… have any of them been broken loose from the frame?
Are all 4 of the 'seat bumper bolts' in good condition? Have any of their threaded shafts been bent from being perpendicular to the round pad?
???
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; 09-26-2016 at 11:35 AM.
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It could be that the bottom seat frame is broken and you need a reinforcement part like this one:
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....5Z5Z50000036b#
And you need the rubber bumpers.
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....5Z5Z50000036b#
And you need the rubber bumpers.
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I put a reinforcement in when seat were redone. I threaded the top bumpers all the way in the right was a little unlevel. The remains of the rubber pads were there but, torn up. It looks like the side hinges need to go toward the back.
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I can say this...
When I recover seats..I oftentimes have to tweak the frames back together so I get the upper and lower stop bolts to contact as much as possible. The photo above has not been tweaked.....but as you can see it is very close to being perfect. And what I find it is the hinges and the rear seat frame being all messed up due to people throwing themselves into the seat..and over time..the frame begins to move.
DUB
When I recover seats..I oftentimes have to tweak the frames back together so I get the upper and lower stop bolts to contact as much as possible. The photo above has not been tweaked.....but as you can see it is very close to being perfect. And what I find it is the hinges and the rear seat frame being all messed up due to people throwing themselves into the seat..and over time..the frame begins to move.
DUB
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Those two studs are not badly misaligned. But, you don't have a rubber cushion on the upper stud. (see photos above) If you install the cushion, there is no way those two studs can get 'hooked'.
If the seat back sits too 'vertical' when the cushion is installed, cut it down so that it just sticks up a bit from the stud head. Or, you could install a different bolt/pad in the seat back so that is has a different contact point with the lower seat stud.
If the seat back sits too 'vertical' when the cushion is installed, cut it down so that it just sticks up a bit from the stud head. Or, you could install a different bolt/pad in the seat back so that is has a different contact point with the lower seat stud.
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YES...and also the steel frame due to its curve has been effected by people throwing themselves in the seat. So their lower back is always making contact and the lower seat back frame.
And if you also take into account the seat bottom frame..it is often times cracked or split and needs to be repaired....BUT...generally the seat bottom frame does not need to be re-worked due to the lower stops thread into the welded in nuts...so their dimension is a 'given'...and you adjust the rear seat back to them.
In my photo it does not show that the two stops are very good from the 'front to back' aspect. But in the photo you can see the 'side to side' is off.
When I get the covers off...and do whatever repairs I need to do...I do 'play around' with the rear frame to get these stops to align correctly. I am just picky that way. I have not come across a set of seats that I can not correct these bumpers and stops.
I have numerous photos of when I recently did seat covers that were 1972 ORIGINALS and thought of posting them in a thread of doing set covers.....but with so many videos on doing it... I wonder if it is worth it.
And if you need an estimated time to get the frame tweaked back into correct position..I can have an EASY 1/2 hour + in that....so it just depends. Because some I get in are real;ly screwed up and barely touching.
DUB
And if you also take into account the seat bottom frame..it is often times cracked or split and needs to be repaired....BUT...generally the seat bottom frame does not need to be re-worked due to the lower stops thread into the welded in nuts...so their dimension is a 'given'...and you adjust the rear seat back to them.
In my photo it does not show that the two stops are very good from the 'front to back' aspect. But in the photo you can see the 'side to side' is off.
When I get the covers off...and do whatever repairs I need to do...I do 'play around' with the rear frame to get these stops to align correctly. I am just picky that way. I have not come across a set of seats that I can not correct these bumpers and stops.
I have numerous photos of when I recently did seat covers that were 1972 ORIGINALS and thought of posting them in a thread of doing set covers.....but with so many videos on doing it... I wonder if it is worth it.
And if you need an estimated time to get the frame tweaked back into correct position..I can have an EASY 1/2 hour + in that....so it just depends. Because some I get in are real;ly screwed up and barely touching.
DUB
#10
Melting Slicks
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Those two studs are not badly misaligned. But, you don't have a rubber cushion on the upper stud. (see photos above) If you install the cushion, there is no way those two studs can get 'hooked'.
If the seat back sits too 'vertical' when the cushion is installed, cut it down so that it just sticks up a bit from the stud head. Or, you could install a different bolt/pad in the seat back so that is has a different contact point with the lower seat stud.
If the seat back sits too 'vertical' when the cushion is installed, cut it down so that it just sticks up a bit from the stud head. Or, you could install a different bolt/pad in the seat back so that is has a different contact point with the lower seat stud.
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If you get into tweaking on the seat back frame...and look at it...you will see there are a lot of ways this frame can move when it has been 'loved on'.
Take a close look on where the track that holds your seat release mechanism. I oftentimes see the beginnings of the metal beginning to tear near the two small screws that secure the track to the seat back. It is somewhat flimsy there.
DUB
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