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I was on Moroso's web site and that is the same part number I came up with.
See Jebby you aren't so lazy after all!
Are there any other associated parts I need to go with the Mounts?
Moroso's web site states that a solid transmission mount must be used with solid motor mounts.
Any negative issues with running the solid trans mount?
"Solid Motor Mounts must be used in conjunction with Solid Transmission Mounts to prevent breakage of engine block and transmission case due to torsional stress"
Unless you have a 1000 horsepower car on slicks that lifts the wheels....I am calling BS on this....
I have solid mounted dozens of Model A’s and Duece’s with small block Chevys and Fords and never had an issue....don’t see how you would.
My 72’ has no issue either....
Now if the trans mount broke and the trans lifted up I could see it....
I'm thinking of installing the Moroso solid, anybody have the P/N handy? I'm even lazier than Jebby
I was road racing with 295 X 17 inch Hoosier R1 slicks for years with solid motor mounts and no spreader bar. Everyone on this forum seemed to rave about their spreader bars. I bought the VB&P model and to tell you the truth I didn't see any lap times change or really notice anything. I did already have all the gusseting outlined in in the chevy corvette power book
I was on Moroso's web site and that is the same part number I came up with.
See Jebby you aren't so lazy after all!
Are there any other associated parts I need to go with the Mounts?
Nah....but I used gold iridite plated Grade 8 bolts with stainless washers and the correct black oxide long shoulder bolts for the frame pads to mount with the point on the end and a stainless shoulder nut.
I have solid mounts in my car. I also have the differential mounted solid and I have virtually no noticeable vibration.
Mike
I'm with Mike, solid everything. engine, tranny, and differential. I went solid on the differential as a cure to sever wheel hop in the first two gears when I installed my TKO 600 behind my 427 SBC. QA1's dual adjust and 520# mono spring couldn't control the rear with sticky 335 width rear tires. My automatic would just smoke the tires and release the energy
v2racing, I have solid mounts in my car. I also have the differential mounted solid and I have virtually no noticeable vibration. Mike
gkull, I'm with Mike, solid everything. engine, tranny, and differential. I went solid on the differential as a cure to sever wheel hop in the first two gears when I installed my TKO 600 behind my 427 SBC.
Do you have a manufacturer for the solid transmission mount you are running.
Moroso tech services did not know if theirs would work with my TKO-600.
Last edited by OldCarBum; Feb 26, 2019 at 02:22 PM.
Moroso's web site states that a solid transmission mount must be used with solid motor mounts.
Any negative issues with running the solid trans mount?
"Solid Motor Mounts must be used in conjunction with Solid Transmission Mounts to prevent breakage of engine block and transmission case due to torsional stress"
My opinion is the opposite, but for the same reason... Without a full roll cage, our chassis flex quite a bit, particularly around the middle. I don't want that torsional stress to be fed into my gearbox and relatively flimsy factory bellhousing.
Moroso's web site states that a solid transmission mount must be used with solid motor mounts.
Any negative issues with running the solid trans mount?
"Solid Motor Mounts must be used in conjunction with Solid Transmission Mounts to prevent breakage of engine block and transmission case due to torsional stress"
Web site does not say you have to run a solid tranny mount with solid motor mounts. It does state: Solid Motor Mounts must be used with solid transmission mount. That makes sense. You had it backwards and it changes the statement dramatically.
You do not have to have solid trans mount with solid motor mounts. You can use rubber or poly at the tranny.
Last edited by HeadsU.P.; Feb 26, 2019 at 04:40 PM.
[QUOTE=HeadsU.P.;1598951497]Web site does not say you have to run a solid tranny mount with solid motor mounts. It does state: Solid Motor Mounts must be used with solid transmission mount. That makes sense. You had it backwards and it changes the statement dramatically.
Read it again, we are saying the same thing.
I cut and pasted the sentence directly from the bullet on Moroso's web site on their solid motor mount catalog page. "Solid Motor Mounts must be used in conjunction with Solid Transmission Mounts to prevent breakage of engine block and transmission case due to torsional stress". Plus I called Moroso and their tech services department told me the same thing. I will call them back to verify.
Last edited by OldCarBum; Feb 26, 2019 at 04:51 PM.
I don't run a solid transmission mount. I've seen automatic transmission cases, usually tailshaft housings, crack with solid trans mounts. They are not as strong as the engine blocks and our frames flex a lot. I run a poly trans mount. Allows enough flex to keep from breaking but still a lot stiffer than stock.
The TKO may be tough enough to withstand a solid rear mount. I can't say for sure there.
I'm fortunate enough to get a cage before this forum came into existence 20 years ago. I never cracked my 700R4 and now I have a blow proof bell housings
I guess you could cut a piece of rubber inner tube and lay it on top of a solid tail shaft mounting block spacer if you couldn't sleep at night worrying about it
If I ran a full cage with forward bars (not just a half cage) then I would run a solid transmission mount. But with the amount these chassis flex, and particularly as I'm using the original cast alloy bellhousing (that is a pretty lightly built piece) bolted to my tko600, I run a standard transmission mount to allow the frame to flex without stressing the gearbox/bellhousing.
Web site does not say you have to run a solid tranny mount with solid motor mounts. It does state: Solid Motor Mounts must be used with solid transmission mount. That makes sense. You had it backwards and it changes the statement dramatically.
Read it again, we are saying the same thing.
I cut and pasted the sentence directly from the bullet on Moroso's web site on their solid motor mount catalog page. "Solid Motor Mounts must be used in conjunction with Solid Transmission Mounts to prevent breakage of engine block and transmission case due to torsional stress". Plus I called Moroso and their tech services department told me the same thing. I will call them back to verify.
Yes, that part is correct. But the incorrect portion is:
When using Moroso Solid Engine Mounts, you must use a solid tranny mount. That's not true.
Read your post 19 again.
I get what you're saying - if using a solid trans mount, then you must use solid engine mounts. Which is not the same as if using solid engine mounts, you must use a solid trans mount.
I, like many others am running the Energy trans mount too....works great....1-2 powershift and the shifter doesn’t jump....running a Hurst Competition.
Stock trans mount will lift....poly is much better in this regard....
I, like many others am running the Energy trans mount too....works great....1-2 powershift and the shifter doesn’t jump....running a Hurst Competition.
Stock trans mount will lift....poly is much better in this regard....
Jebby
It sounds like I'll need to call Moroso and Energy Suspension in the morning.
I have always ran solid engine mounts with a poly/oem transmission mounts on street cars with no problems. Race cars with cages get engine and transmission plates.
I get what you're saying - if using a solid trans mount, then you must use solid engine mounts. Which is not the same as if using solid engine mounts, you must use a solid trans mount.
If you install a Solid Trans Mount, you MUST use Solid Motor Mounts.
If you install Solid Motor Mounts, you DO NOT have to use solid trans mount. Use your choice of material.
Today I ordered moroso solid motor mounts and an energy suspension poly trans mount for my 73.
I talked to tech services at energy suspension this morning about the heat and melting motor mounts on our C3’s with headers.
They said that they have had several complaints regarding melting poly motor mounts are aware of the problem and suggested to either install a heat shield, which “might help”, or to run solid motor mounts.
Thanks for all the comments and help.
From: At my Bar drinking and wrenching in Lafayette Colorado
I'm running the same setup as Jebby: Solid Moroso motor mounts (...but on both sides) and Energy poly tranny mount. 407 small block putting out 500/500. I hammer it hard every time I drive it, and the setup is good. I was tearing out rubber mounts regularly before going solid. No harshness or vibration beyond what a big solid roller cam normally runs...