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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 07:45 PM
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Hello guys I did give the cam manufacturer a chance ,and I did not like what I heard so here is the name of the cam company Erson and PBM lifters. Please I am not saying their cams are bad or the lifters are bad, but they did not work for me. One or two people ask so I said it I know some people use their cams and never have any trouble put I did so you judge for yourself . This is going to coat me around $750 plus all my work.
If you have done roller cams, just do what worked. You don't need as much ZDDP then.
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 08:15 PM
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I was just building a simple street motor and did not see the need for a roller cam also trying to keep cost down. I was thinking a 383 mild cam would be a nice step up some thing around 350 HP and nothing fancy no roller cam not at this power level.
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1tazz
I was just building a simple street motor and did not see the need for a roller cam also trying to keep cost down. I was thinking a 383 mild cam would be a nice step up some thing around 350 HP and nothing fancy no roller cam not at this power level.
I fully understand your decision.
Just trying to talk you into a new decision, that will increase longevity.
No one puts screens on oil galley drains unless they care a bunch.
1 in 100 cams do this I bet. Feel lucky, or unlucky?

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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 09:01 PM
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BTW, I had a 76 C10 I bought new. 60K miles it did this on the freeway. Wasn't so funny back then, but I managed to have it rebuilt quickly.
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 09:16 PM
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I understand what you are saying, the block was one I had form an older 383 drag motor so I used it for this build. I am not feeling lucky right now. LOL This motor is for my wifes car she is into the corvette I am a chevelle Guy.
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
I fully understand your decision.
Just trying to talk you into a new decision, that will increase longevity.
No one puts screens on oil galley drains unless they care a bunch.
1 in 100 cams do this I bet. Feel lucky, or unlucky?
Still don't know if the cam was at fault here. As mentioned earlier, good probability the oil galley was plugged to one or more lifters.
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1tazz
I understand what you are saying, the block was one I had form an older 383 drag motor so I used it for this build. I am not feeling lucky right now. LOL This motor is for my wifes car she is into the corvette I am a chevelle Guy.
After 40 years I learned the more you spend on her, the less they bitch when you do.
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 06:54 AM
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Yes I am with you on that I spent most of my money on cars that is for sure , she has never said anything about it . That makes her a keeper .
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 09:40 AM
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In understand the appeal of ft lifters (Flat tappet)
call Chris if you wanna source something decent (straub)....Isky/crower may have something. Thing is most out there are junk
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 12:07 PM
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Does the bad lifter spin/turn easily in the lifter bore of the block or is it tight and hard to spin ?? I'm in with the lifter wasn't turning guys , based from the picture looks like the lifter wasn't turning
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 08:27 PM
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1tazz,

Just read an article on Summit Racing tech site. It seems that when the SBC blocks went to a roller cam, GM put a "oil restrictor" in the lifter oil galley. The roller lifters do not need as much oil as the earlier blocks with the F.T. cams.

I do not know what year the roller block came out.
I do not know what year your 383 build-up block is.
Just saying . . .

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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 09:01 PM
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Lifter not spinning ... maybe:

Burr in bore

Burr on lifter edges (banged up in-process or in-transit)

Thick moly paste in bore or on sides of lifter can prevent it from spinning ... long enough for lobe to scuff a bad pattern ...
... moly on face aka foot is Good ... but Not lifter sides or in bore.
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 08:32 AM
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crappy metal in lifters thats the problem nowadays. Op call straub
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
crappy metal in lifters thats the problem nowadays. Op call straub
Sure glad you are not a public defender. You pass judgement before the jury enters the courtroom.

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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 05:55 PM
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Dropped cam and lifters off at motor shop Mon and he called today and said there was excessive wear on the fuel pump cam so he is leaning toward cam failure. Cam hardness wrong. Looks like I got a bad cam. He told me this is a dead give away because this eliminates the lifter failure.
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by HeadsU.P.
Sure glad you are not a public defender. You pass judgement before the jury enters the courtroom.
Passing on accurate info, call it what you will.
This stuff isnt what it was in the 80s & rollers arent exempt

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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 06:29 PM
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Yes lots junk parts being dumped on the marked these days next cam will come from Mike Jones.
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 06:39 PM
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There is a guy around the corner, Joe Jill at Superior Auto.
No matter if it's a stock grind, he custom orders every cam so it's not production made.
Seems to solve that issue.
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