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Old Jul 19, 2024 | 02:59 PM
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You guys have motivated to buy a spreader bar and see how it affects the cars handling. It’s supposed to arrive on Monday. I’ll check back in next week to report if there is any change in the handling.

All bushings (rubber) and ball joints (tall) are new up front. So any improvement will be attributed to the spreader bar.
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Old Jul 19, 2024 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JC 1975
You guys have motivated to buy a spreader bar and see how it affects the cars handling. It’s supposed to arrive on Monday. I’ll check back in next week to report if there is any change in the handling.

All bushings (rubber) and ball joints (tall) are new up front. So any improvement will be attributed to the spreader bar.
There have been discussions in past posts about how to install the spreader bar. Some finger tight... I and I don't say that I'm 100% right I had my front tires off the ground and installed the spreader bar tight. Then I went to the optical alignment shop to make sure that my camber was set to the correct FOR ME .56 degrees neg. That is where I got even front tire ware.
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Old Jul 19, 2024 | 11:34 PM
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spreader bars keep the cradle from sagging and needing a lot of shims to
align.
I put mine on tight.
late model C3s are a pain to install the bar.
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 01:23 AM
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Get front end on jackstands, wheels hanging. Install spreader bar tight holding shock towers tightly out. Then go for a drive!
I can actually make minor camber adjustments with the spreader bar. But it pushes both sides at once.
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 12:14 PM
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What's the reasoning here for installing the spreader bar with the suspension hanging? I set my car on the ground and installed it tight that way.
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ignatz
What's the reasoning here for installing the spreader bar with the suspension hanging? I set my car on the ground and installed it tight that way.
Probably to get the max preload? Installing it with the front end in the air, lifted by the front crossmember, would likely give the most preload.

The spreader bar manufacturer will almost certainly tell you not to do this, and that the bar should not be used to correct a sagging suspension, but how will they know?
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 01:36 AM
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Years ago I read on this very forum that installing it with the suspension hanging is the way to go.
Considering my results, and those of others.
(Yes, this has been discussed on here many times over the years).
I believe I did it right. I have never heard of installing on the ground hand tight until this very thread.
If your not trying to hold those shock towers tight. Why bother at all?
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 01:40 AM
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Ya know I'm certain I still don't have installation instructions from Speed Direct for the spreader bar. But my memory says they did indeed say to hang the frame when installing.
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 4-vettes
With that formula, I guess I have a lot of Vette years. Just look at my avatar.
But.
My take on this thread. At least perhaps what it is that I would like to see.
Is solid advice to the newer C3 Corvette owners on what works for the average guy on a street car.
I'm assuming that the average forum member is not a experienced racer. And is looking to make his 50 year old car handle really well with a minimum of trial and error. As this gets expensive fast.
What are the things that Joe Average can do to set up his 68-82 Corvette for spirited street driving?
Some really good advice in this direction is what I feel is most needed on a forum such as this one.
Yes I know, what wins on Sunday sells on Monday.
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IMO the single least expensive, easiest mod on a classic street Vette or Camaro that almost anyone can do (especially a first generation Camaro) is a fat sway bar on the front. It makes a very noticeable difference for such a simple mod/
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 08:21 AM
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Does anyone make a spreader bar for a big block with stock pullies and stock fan? I haven't found one yet.
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 06:15 PM
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Just got back from a drive. It turns much sharper now. You turn the wheel and that’s the direction it goes. The frame had slightly sagged by about a half inch. I had to adjust it down to its narrowest setting.




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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 3X2
Does anyone make a spreader bar for a big block with stock pullies and stock fan? I haven't found one yet.
Give Van Steel a call.
Their old design will fit a big block, but I’m not sure if their new design does.
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OldCarBum
Give Van Steel a call.
Their old design will fit a big block, but I’m not sure if their new design does.
No, not with stock fan. Electric fans only per their catalog.
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 3X2
Does anyone make a spreader bar for a big block with stock pullies and stock fan? I haven't found one yet.
I offered to prototype one for Dan at Van Steel.
But then I got distracted by other projects.
He is interested in figuring it out.
I'll get back to it. Unless someone else beats me to it.

A guy in Germany got it done. So it can fit, somehow.
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 09:53 PM
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Whether you use the spreader bar as an excuse to get electric fans, or the other way around, your car will benefit from having both.
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Old Jul 29, 2024 | 09:32 AM
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I took my Corvette out on a longer drive that consisted of a very short tight twisty road. I can’t believe a spreader bar changed the cars handling from understeer to neutral with maybe just a hair of oversteer. I did take a shim on one side and moved it over to the other, but I wouldn’t think a shim would make that much of a difference being only a 1/16th in thickness.
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Old Jul 29, 2024 | 10:02 AM
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Well anything that makes the front bite harder, takes out some understeer.
Glad you could feel the difference.
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Old Jul 30, 2024 | 07:28 PM
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I bought my spreader bar from Van Steel. It made a big difference in my 73. The bar seamed to stiffened up the front end.
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