Observing new members posts.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,116
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The vibe is definetly less positive and I find there is a more trolling than in the past, however the C4 forums are still a great techical resource, especially for advanced stuff like engine builds and FI.
You just have to tune out the "noise" and not let it bother you.
You just have to tune out the "noise" and not let it bother you.
Instructor
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
From: Waynesville North Carolina
I have seen many of the "there are no stupid questions"but yet sometimes it is like pulling teeth to get a response unless we are well known on here. I consider myself a "NEWBE" but I also contributed to the forum, I understand that almost everything someone could think of is probably somewhere in the search area, but sometimes a person might want to here some opinions from all the knowledge on the Forum, instead of just looking it up. I thought that is what the Forum was for? I found myself not using the forum for sometime due to rude individuals, but i am gonna give it another shot.
It's been 10 years for me here, and that's what I miss the most. Once was a person would come on here and say"I've got a stupid question" and the only responce he or she would get is, "There is no stupid questions, ask away" But I guess ten years ago civility wasn't in such short supply ! We stopped being friends and became 'members'
Team Owner
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 20,179
Likes: 673
From: Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
St. Jude '03 thru '24
Team Owner
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 20,974
Likes: 261
I know I've made a few 
comments over the last year. All but one was in jest so I hope I'm not one of those "new members" you're referring to. We are very diverse group of people on here and everyone of us has a unique personality. I have found this to be a great forum and enjoy reading the posts. I'm not a mechanic and don't play one on TV but I do like to tinker and have found working on the vette very relaxing and therapeutic. Because of this site I'll work on things that I would not have ever imagined tackling before.
There was another site I joined last year that I will never sign in on anymore. All those guys ever did was throw insults. It was really disgusting.
This is probably the best forum out there. I take the trivial stuff here with a grain of salt. Most of the posts & replies are informative. Some clever and some just crack me up
comments over the last year. All but one was in jest so I hope I'm not one of those "new members" you're referring to. We are very diverse group of people on here and everyone of us has a unique personality. I have found this to be a great forum and enjoy reading the posts. I'm not a mechanic and don't play one on TV but I do like to tinker and have found working on the vette very relaxing and therapeutic. Because of this site I'll work on things that I would not have ever imagined tackling before. There was another site I joined last year that I will never sign in on anymore. All those guys ever did was throw insults. It was really disgusting.
This is probably the best forum out there. I take the trivial stuff here with a grain of salt. Most of the posts & replies are informative. Some clever and some just crack me up
Melting Slicks
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,547
Likes: 46
From: NJ
I come to these forums for 2 reasons. To share my knlowledge and to learn... I think too many people are coming to forums these days with the wrong intensions... All they care about is "whos d!cks bigger"
...Just my .02!
Race Director
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 15,561
Likes: 166
From: Long Island NY
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
I also am a new member and have not seen really any attacks, and No the c4s prices have not gone down, hell if they were down i would have owned one allready, for a decent c4 you are looking to spend at least 8-10 k, i am still looking though, have a good day
Pro
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 657
Likes: 1
From: Sykesville Maryland
I couldnt agree more... More times then not. The members who I have had issues with and seen CAUSE issues are the members who have been here for awhile. They think they know everything, and they are rude and snappy...
I come to these forums for 2 reasons. To share my knlowledge and to learn... I think too many people are coming to forums these days with the wrong intensions... All they care about is "whos d!cks bigger"...
Just my .02!
I come to these forums for 2 reasons. To share my knlowledge and to learn... I think too many people are coming to forums these days with the wrong intensions... All they care about is "whos d!cks bigger"
...Just my .02!
Whoops, there I go again with one of my comments
Safety Car
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,616
Likes: 5
From: Sandhills of North Carolina
This is a good thread.
We seem to have one of these every few months or so. I think they get people to thinking about how they reply to a post......at least for a while anyway.
Vettes are complicated, so are people but all in all we really seem to manage pretty good on here.
Now, isn't it about time for a "What weight of oil should I use" thread.
We seem to have one of these every few months or so. I think they get people to thinking about how they reply to a post......at least for a while anyway.
Vettes are complicated, so are people but all in all we really seem to manage pretty good on here. Now, isn't it about time for a "What weight of oil should I use" thread.
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 924
Likes: 0
From: Columbia South Carolina
And some get cranky when they don't get a instant response to their vague information about their problem.
The classics daily ;
"my car won't start, what is wrong with it?" post
Possibly due to pricing we are dealing with first car owners who have no mechanical knowledge whatsoever , no understandings of the "basics" , let alone a Vette?
I always thought a forum was a place for open discussion and audience participation.If you do not want to discuss an issue then don't!Perhaps you are correct that some get "cranky" when an instant response is not forthcoming immediately,but I'm not sure that that gives you the right to criticize people who in your opinion "have no mechanical knowledge or understanding of the basics".I think there are plenty of excellent mechanics who sometimes have to ask others how to get a car to "crank"!
Safety Car
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 4,723
Likes: 11
From: Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada
I stopped posting on here for months because of that. I've since made my way back this month and alot has changed for the better.It's the Internet, there's always going to be "those" people.
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Instructor
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
It's been 10 years for me here, and that's what I miss the most. Once was a person would come on here and say"I've got a stupid question" and the only responce he or she would get is, "There is no stupid questions, ask away" But I guess ten years ago civility wasn't in such short supply ! We stopped being friends and became 'members'
Instructor
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: Fontana S. California
I had two post removed from this Thread (Biggest Rotors and Brakes on a C-4).. The post was weak causing people to question him.. I guess a silly reply is wrong SO LISTEN !!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL STOP AND I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY !!!!!!! This smiley (
) is a winner........ . . . . . . . . . 
) is a winner........ . . . . . . . . .
Instructor
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Wow! I didn't know this thread would create this many responses.
I just wish people would answer members questions instead of replying with, "That's Rice, I hate Body Kits or Buy an FSM".
If you don't like a posters question, you shouldn't respond to it unless you have an answer or an opinion that's relevant to the question. Like my parents taught me, "If you don't have anything nice to say, Don't say anything at all". Well, most of the time anyways.
I just wish people would answer members questions instead of replying with, "That's Rice, I hate Body Kits or Buy an FSM".
If you don't like a posters question, you shouldn't respond to it unless you have an answer or an opinion that's relevant to the question. Like my parents taught me, "If you don't have anything nice to say, Don't say anything at all". Well, most of the time anyways.
Instructor
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Instructor
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
I always thought a forum was a place for open discussion and audience participation.If you do not want to discuss an issue then don't!Perhaps you are correct that some get "cranky" when an instant response is not forthcoming immediately,but I'm not sure that that gives you the right to criticize people who in your opinion "have no mechanical knowledge or understanding of the basics".I think there are plenty of excellent mechanics who sometimes have to ask others how to get a car to "crank"!
Instructor
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
I have seen many of the "there are no stupid questions"but yet sometimes it is like pulling teeth to get a response unless we are well known on here. I consider myself a "NEWBE" but I also contributed to the forum, I understand that almost everything someone could think of is probably somewhere in the search area, but sometimes a person might want to here some opinions from all the knowledge on the Forum, instead of just looking it up. I thought that is what the Forum was for? I found myself not using the forum for sometime due to rude individuals, but i am gonna give it another shot.
Drifting
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,976
Likes: 0
From: Patchogue NY
noob's and senior member conflict has been going on for quite some time on this forum. After I sold my 91 I stopped visiting the site regularly, but kept an eye on the "C4 for sale thread," as I was interested in an LT4. Now that I have the LT4, and back on the site regularly, I try not to ask questions, but monitor the threads to see if others have asked questions that I can relate to with my vehicle.
Bottom line, there is no stupid question, but there is a correct way to ask it, as there is a correct way to answer it. Respect begets respect.
At least, that's the way it's supposed to go. JMHO.
Joe B.
Bottom line, there is no stupid question, but there is a correct way to ask it, as there is a correct way to answer it. Respect begets respect.
At least, that's the way it's supposed to go. JMHO.
Joe B.
Instructor
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
From: O'Fallon Missouri
I'm newish to CF, but I've been on the street racing forums for years( Oh dear God! did i actually say that?)
I like it here on CF. Besides some of the stuck up attitude that floats around sometimes, its nice here.No one is perfect. Everyone was once a newbie.remember that when you reply to a seemingly "dumb" post.
On the "racing forums" you will see an abundance of " suck it up buttercup" or "get thicker skin" or a myriad of niceties. Coming here, It was refreshing to not get that kind of vibe.
Yes , I'm a mechanic IRL. I offer my help at any and every chance. Why? because if you come see me at work it costs you $85 per hour. Not many people take advantage of that, but it's offered.I run into problems every once in a while that stump me. the only way we know everything is if our name was Gordon K.
There are sometimes where I see what would be an inappropriate response to a question. the only dumb question is the one unasked. Granted the younger generation SHOULD research problems before posting. Why? Learn about the car. take the time and READ. I didn't go POOF! and become a mechanic. It took time reading and learning.
On a last note though.........
I know we have a strict " no street racing " thing here. I don't post about it here. But please don't look down your nose at me if I speed. I don't complain about the tickets. Have I been doing this for quite a while? Yes I have. Do I know when and where I can get away with it? Yes sir. Is it illegal? Yes. So is removing your cats though. Not all of us "street racers" are evil and dangerous. Not all of us will go play in rush hour traffic. ( MODS>>> Please don't ban me for being honest)
Just be cool. Be civil. Be friends. That's what corvette ownership is about in the end.
I like it here on CF. Besides some of the stuck up attitude
that floats around sometimes, its nice here.No one is perfect. Everyone was once a newbie.remember that when you reply to a seemingly "dumb" post.On the "racing forums" you will see an abundance of " suck it up buttercup" or "get thicker skin" or a myriad of niceties. Coming here, It was refreshing to not get that kind of vibe.
Yes , I'm a mechanic IRL. I offer my help at any and every chance. Why? because if you come see me at work it costs you $85 per hour. Not many people take advantage of that, but it's offered.I run into problems every once in a while that stump me. the only way we know everything is if our name was Gordon K.
There are sometimes where I see what would be an inappropriate response to a question. the only dumb question is the one unasked. Granted the younger generation SHOULD research problems before posting. Why? Learn about the car. take the time and READ. I didn't go POOF! and become a mechanic. It took time reading and learning.
On a last note though.........
I know we have a strict " no street racing " thing here. I don't post about it here. But please don't look down your nose at me if I speed. I don't complain about the tickets. Have I been doing this for quite a while? Yes I have. Do I know when and where I can get away with it? Yes sir. Is it illegal? Yes. So is removing your cats though. Not all of us "street racers" are evil and dangerous. Not all of us will go play in rush hour traffic. ( MODS>>> Please don't ban me for being honest)
Just be cool. Be civil. Be friends. That's what corvette ownership is about in the end.
Last edited by kawijames; Jan 28, 2009 at 10:28 AM.