89 vette won't start!
You're lookiing at a Camaro manual.
A code 53 for a 89 Y body vin 8 (Corvette) is System Over Voltage.
In your video, when the ether was sprayed into the throttle body, the engiine rpm did increase but the engine did not run on its own. The starter was still cranking the engine.
Have you visually verifyed the strenght of the spark by pulling a plug and laying it on the intake manifold while cranking the engine and also is the spark consistent?
You're lookiing at a Camaro manual.
A code 53 for a 89 Y body vin 8 (Corvette) is System Over Voltage.
In your video, when the ether was sprayed into the throttle body, the engiine rpm did increase but the engine did not run on its own. The starter was still cranking the engine.
Have you visually verifyed the strenght of the spark by pulling a plug and laying it on the intake manifold while cranking the engine and also is the spark consistent?
No, I have not visually checked the strenth of the spark plug arch.
The posted video was not a good example of the ether running the car. I have run the car for as much as 30 sec. after the starter was done cranking the engine.
Don't believe everything you find on the internet.
16146688 is a BCM for a 90 Corvette.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-...spagenameZWDVW
Don't believe everything you find on the internet.
16146688 is a BCM for a 90 Corvette.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-...spagenameZWDVW
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Did you try to start the engine with the TPS unhooked? What I am getting at, possibly a clear flood mode?
Oh, btw, do you get a bad gasoline smell when you crank it like that?
Last edited by woodstock; Jul 13, 2007 at 09:23 AM.
Did you try to start the engine with the TPS unhooked? What I am getting at, possibly a clear flood mode?
Oh, btw, do you get a bad gasoline smell when you crank it like that?
Also I did check the TPS senor the other day - just didn't reply - my bad. The sensor tested OK. I went back and checked again today and photographed it so that others can see what's going on or see how to test their own. I'm using A TPS test harness from Mid America p/n 17788 for this test. You don't need this tester - it just makes the test a little easier!
Picture #1 is of the TPS voltage with sensor in the closed throttle position. (Key must be in the "ON" position - engine is not running...measure across (probe) leads "A" & "B" with volt meter) If good reading should be between .450 and .615 at closed throttle and 5 volts @ W.O.T.
Picture #2 is of the TPS ohm reading with the sensor in the closed throttle position. (Sensor is unpluged measuring across (probe) pins "A" & "B" with ohm meter)
Picture #3 is of the TPS ohm reading with the sensor in the open throttle position. (Sensor is unpluged measuring across (probe) pins "A" & "B" with ohm meter)
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There are 15 different combinations of resistance for each vehicle, the keys are randomly created and randomly assigned to different vehicles. When the wrong key is inserted into an already-programmed vehicle, the security light in the dash remains lit while the key is in the 'on' position. When removed, a counter starts which lasts between 2 to 4 minutes; during this period the vehicle cannot be started, even if you use the right key. In the PASSKEY-I system, the computer disables the starter relay box, so that the ignition system cannot supply voltage to the starter to start the car.
However, anyone with enough guts to climb under the car can start the car with a long screw driver; by crossing the posts on the starter.
GM found out people were doing this, the PASSKEY-I system was declared flawed, and the next generation, PASSKEY-II was put into active use.
PASSKEY-II:
The PASSKEY-II system has all the features of a PASSKEY-I system, it has the timer, the starter relay disable, and the 15 individual resistances.
The new thing in the PASSKEY-II system was an Injector Pulse disable. The computer sends a square wave pulse to the fuel injectors many times per second, to tell them when to mix fuel with the air. The PASSKEY-II system, when detecting the wrong key, disables this square wave pulse. Thus even if the starter was jumped off, the engine would not start (only crank) for lack of fuel.
It would seem that '89 vetts have a Passkey-II system
I have been going through the same thing you are and still have no luck with mine. I have even took the intake off and pulled the injectors and ultrasonic cleaned them. they were pretty dirty but it still wont run but for only a second. 89's have got to be the biggest headache It must be their
year to croak.Even in the corvette newsgroups people are writing in on them.
Everything you have been through ....It's like I am reading what has happened to me in the last 2 months.
Hang in there and maybe just maybe we can figure this thing out.
A quest A quest for fuel delivery !!!!!!https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...s/thumbsup.gif
PASSKEY-II:
The PASSKEY-II system has all the features of a PASSKEY-I system, it has the timer, the starter relay disable, and the 15 individual resistances.
The new thing in the PASSKEY-II system was an Injector Pulse disable. The computer sends a square wave pulse to the fuel injectors many times per second, to tell them when to mix fuel with the air. The PASSKEY-II system, when detecting the wrong key, disables this square wave pulse. Thus even if the starter was jumped off, the engine would not start (only crank) for lack of fuel.
I believe this is why the injectors do not fire.
One way or the other I'm going to see if this is the problem.
Note:
On '89 Corvettes the Passkey II connects directly to the ECM (Pin B6) to allow the ground circut to fire the injectors via +5V 50HZ signal generated from the VATS Decoder Module.
On '90 and newer models the circut passes through the Body Control Module (BCM) where the +5V 50HZ signal is generated then sent to the ECM. (This is why I was looking for the BCM on my ride)
I'm going to either order VATS Bypass from Bakereletronics, buy a new VASTS module from the stealership(dealership) or build my own 5 volt frequecy generator from Radioshack.
I had similar problem but mine wound up being the ecm, good luck Rich













