Have a pic?
Hard brake pedal solution, finally!!
Team Owner
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
The front line has to move back about 2" though, if its flexible enough.
I'd post the difference in piston sizes, but I can't seem to find my damn calipers.
Le Mans Master
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No, but he does:
That one right there is straight off a 94, and as Pcolt said, the outlet on the left of the reservior is for the ABS prime pipe
That one right there is straight off a 94, and as Pcolt said, the outlet on the left of the reservior is for the ABS prime pipe
Team Owner
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
So why don't the early ABS cars have that?
What does that connection do? I assume it lets the ABS circulate fluid back to the reservoir. So if your car didn't come with this.... is it a bitch to get air out of the ABS?
What does that connection do? I assume it lets the ABS circulate fluid back to the reservoir. So if your car didn't come with this.... is it a bitch to get air out of the ABS?
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Burning Brakes
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If you are looking to increase your leverage on the brakes and you can fab, a cheap and easy way would be to cut the brake pedal lever and add an inch or so in the middle of it. The pedal is more than high enough to accomplish this without ending up with an awkward feel to it and cost would be virtually nothing. This would give you about a 10% increase in leverage on the master. How much it would help...well I guess somebody would need to try it to tell.
Roy
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Le Mans Master
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Bleeding the prime pipe is a piece of ****, its a one man job. I looked at my mum's Mercedes Benz in this area recently, it has not got the prime pipe, but it has no traction control, it does have the connection at the reservior. The other C class Benz i drove before i got that one for my mum did have traction control, and i remember it having 3 lines going into the ABS unit, however i didnt look to see where the 3rd was connected. It was an input, cause the 4 outputs were all clearly marked for each wheel and on the other side of the unit.
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Not a good weekend for me to have time to play with my master cylinder - so my test is going to have to wait. All I can tell you is the master cylinder I ordered from Strange is about 3 times the mass that the stock one is - and not in the bowl area, but in the piston/housing area...therefore there might be something there to say for what we are seeing with the stock setup. Its almost laughable the size difference. 
The proof will be in the performance through.
The proof will be in the performance through.
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Interesting post to say the least 
, I have nothing to add, my 87 seems to stop quite nicely. What I'm really curious about is Cuisinart and his "loud pop", obviously we can throw out a brake line bursting, so what's left? I can only think of 2 things, a caliper piston or a valve....and now he has good brakes? I'm just thinking here (or maybe not), but it seems to me if alot of you are experiencing hard braking with mostly new components (pads, hoses, boosters, MCs, rotors, calipers) then I'd be taking a careful look at the ABS system malfunctioning....just my 2 cents worth...probably not worth 2 cents
, I have nothing to add, my 87 seems to stop quite nicely. What I'm really curious about is Cuisinart and his "loud pop", obviously we can throw out a brake line bursting, so what's left? I can only think of 2 things, a caliper piston or a valve....and now he has good brakes? I'm just thinking here (or maybe not), but it seems to me if alot of you are experiencing hard braking with mostly new components (pads, hoses, boosters, MCs, rotors, calipers) then I'd be taking a careful look at the ABS system malfunctioning....just my 2 cents worth...probably not worth 2 cents
4th Gear
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confused with my brakes
New to forum. love it. I have an 88 aniv. just changed frnt calipers when i bled the right frnt, no problem, plenty of fluid, when i did the left frnt no fluid at caliper. seperated rubber line @ steel line no fluid.This is my first vette with ABS, could use some help. This is my 9th vette & i have never had this problem before.
Thank's in advance
Mike:
Thank's in advance
Mike:
Safety Car
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New to forum. love it. I have an 88 aniv. just changed frnt calipers when i bled the right frnt, no problem, plenty of fluid, when i did the left frnt no fluid at caliper. seperated rubber line @ steel line no fluid.This is my first vette with ABS, could use some help. This is my 9th vette & i have never had this problem before.
Thank's in advance
Mike:
Thank's in advance
Mike:
.....welcome to the jungle......
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Mail Man, I can understand your frustration. If you have an 88 and you don't know if the ABS kicked in, then your ABS wasn't working correctly. On my 88 and my brother's 89 (same ABS system, non-Z51, stock brakes) when the ABS kicks in you KNOW IT. The ABS activation results in a fast bunch of sledgehammer pulses as the wheels start to lock at max traction and then the ABS releases and repeats. When I do an ABS panic stop test from 50 mph I don't need to check the ABS light, as the car feels like it is being b*tch-slapped by Superman.