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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Are all Chevy 350 blocks with 1 piece rear main seals compatible with factory roller cams?

My daughter has a 91 Chevy 3/4 ton truck with over 200,000 miles and still running. I haven't dropped the oil pan but I believe the heavy duty trucks had 4 bolt mains. If it works with a factory roller cam, I may use it for my 383 project.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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I think they switched to roller blocks in 88? not sure
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pwnage1337
I think they switched to roller blocks in 88? not sure
Think off hand it was 87.

With today's aftermarket think you can put a roller hydrolic cam in any engine now a days....though you may have to machine the lifter bores to accept the roller lifters. Most factory roller hydrolic cams I've seen have a step in the face of the cam for a retaining plate....other old school aps have a button which extends from the timing cover to hold the cam in place. I have no idea what is in a '91 heavy duty block though.

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Originally Posted by cumbercr
Are all Chevy 350 blocks with 1 piece rear main seals compatible with factory roller cams?
I haven't dropped the oil pan but I believe the heavy duty trucks had 4 bolt mains. If it works with a factory roller cam, I may use it for my 383 project.
Need to pull the pan and check. I have seen the same block casting as used in the late L98's ( 1 pce , roller cam ) used in truck motors fitted both 2 and 4 bolt mains.
All the 1 pce blocks I have seen have been machined for a roller cam even if a flat tappet was fitted at the factory.Have the 3 tapped bosses in the valley for the lifter spider and the threaded holes in the front for the cam retainer plate
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Thats a good Queston. Have a 86 w/aluminum heads,wich is a late producton 86. I beleve the roller started in 87,or has any body seen a roller in a late 86???
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The 86 block was unique. It has a 1 pc rear seal, but did not have provisions for a roller cam set up. 87 and up had both 1 pc seals, and the boss' cast into the lifter valley, and for the cam retainer plate behind the timing gear.
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The 86 block was unique. It has a 1 pc rear seal, but did not have provisions for a roller cam set up. 87 and up had both 1 pc seals, and the boss' cast into the lifter valley, and for the cam retainer plate behind the timing gear.
That's what I'm hoping. But I think Chevy continued to use flat tappet cams in many of them.
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That's what I'm hoping. But I think Chevy continued to use flat tappet cams in many of them.
You are correct.
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I also have a late model {alum. head} 1986, it has a flat tappet cam. The reason i'm chimming in is because i was just speaking with someone selling 86-95 shortblocks with roller cams.
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Originally Posted by cumbercr
That's what I'm hoping. But I think Chevy continued to use flat tappet cams in many of them.

Yes, even though they would accept a roller most of the non Vette motors had flat tappet cams.
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Be aware that GM also used 2 different bolt spacings on the cam thrust retainer.

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2wd trucks had 2 bolt mains and 4wd trucks had 4 bolt mains. 87 and up have provisions for roller cams but not all had roller cams. i believe up until 91 all non performance v8's were flat tappet
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Originally Posted by rklessdriver
Be aware that GM also used 2 different bolt spacings on the cam thrust retainer.

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So I have a 50/50 chance of choosing correctly. If that's my biggest concern, I can deal with that.
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Originally Posted by cumbercr
So I have a 50/50 chance of choosing correctly. If that's my biggest concern, I can deal with that.
91 year model SHOULD have the narrower/smaller bolt pattern 2nd design camshaft thrust retainer. GM PN 10168501 is for 3.294" bolt centers. It is all of $8.20 on GM Parts Direct.

The 1st design camshaft thrust retainer is GM PN 10088128 and is for 3.62" bolt centers.

Once you have the block apart just measure acoss the bolt pattern with a dial caliper and you'll know which one you need.
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Originally Posted by rklessdriver
91 year model SHOULD have the narrower/smaller bolt pattern 2nd design camshaft thrust retainer. GM PN 10168501 is for 3.294" bolt centers. It is all of $8.20 on GM Parts Direct.

The 1st design camshaft thrust retainer is GM PN 10088128 and is for 3.62" bolt centers.

Once you have the block apart just measure acoss the bolt pattern with a dial caliper and you'll know which one you need.
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Thanks. This is very helpful. I'm saving this info. I think I've concluded that this block will work, assuming it is a 4 bolt main.
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