Sudden VATS Trouble ????
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Le Mans Master
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From: Valparaiso
HAHAHA I know what you mean , happened to me a couple of times
Thanks !
Tomorrow will put the ground on "V" terminal and will know for sure if its :
Bad starter enable relay or .... Bad VATS Module !
Thanks !
Tomorrow will put the ground on "V" terminal and will know for sure if its :
Bad starter enable relay or .... Bad VATS Module !
Burning Brakes
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From: Louisville Ky
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Le Mans Master
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Yes, hopefully someone can test it for us !
I Got a new set of keys coming here anyway, hope they arrive soon
But i bypassed the starter enable relay and that made the engine crank
that's why i believed the starter enable relay was the faulty part.
I Got a new set of keys coming here anyway, hope they arrive soon
But i bypassed the starter enable relay and that made the engine crank
that's why i believed the starter enable relay was the faulty part.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Valparaiso
Behind the IP Panel,disconnect the starter relay and i connected a jumper between "E" (Yellow) and "A" (Dark Green/White line) connectors and engine cranks !
I read that somebody opened the relay , soldered something and made it work
Not sure if this is safe, i'd rather replace the relay, i don't want to cut the wires and put them together as well
I read that somebody opened the relay , soldered something and made it work
Not sure if this is safe, i'd rather replace the relay, i don't want to cut the wires and put them together as well
Heel & Toe
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Do you have the FSM ? If you don't , i tell you , its a must !
FSM : Factory service manual
Now , the answer to your question is HERE
FSM : Factory service manual
Now , the answer to your question is HERE
I have tons of FSM's for Rotary cars though.
I may have an old Mitchell repair guide though, just thought of that. Pretty much the same as an FSM.
Burning Brakes
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Heel & Toe
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Is this located in the same spot on a 91 as the 87, and what wires would I jump. Both yellows go to ignition, Black/Yellow stripe goes to CCM, Yellow/Black stripe goes to clutch switch.
Burning Brakes
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should conclude that it is NOT a VATS issue if fuel relay is on for the normal 2 secs.
"relay is energized when the ccm determines that all security conditions have been met."
not sure if yours has a CCM, don't think so.
I remind you that I am not the ECM/CCM expert!
I hate to ask: did you verify 12V at the purple wire leaving the neutral switch? If no voltage there WITH KEY TURNED TO START CK TERM E of the same switch, which is incoming yel/blk on 91.
joe
"relay is energized when the ccm determines that all security conditions have been met."
not sure if yours has a CCM, don't think so.
I remind you that I am not the ECM/CCM expert!
I hate to ask: did you verify 12V at the purple wire leaving the neutral switch? If no voltage there WITH KEY TURNED TO START CK TERM E of the same switch, which is incoming yel/blk on 91.
joe