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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Okay this is a crazy idea and I have no clue if there is a possible way, but wouldn't it be neat to have an awd c4? And have it switchable like most trucks. I'm just saying this because I'd like to be able to drive my corvette in snow. Maybe some dirfting?
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vettes arent trucks and wheres the tech, this is the tech section not the chat section, post in off topic
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vettes arent trucks and wheres the tech, this is the tech section not the chat section, post in off topic
I was hoping someone would reply with an intelligent answer, that's why it's in tech. Thanks though buddy.
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didnt mean to be picky, just that this section is for tech. info on repairing , upgrading etc. doesnt seem destroying a vette to make a 4x4 fits . its been done, Ive seen guys post pic's of it over in 'general'section, but its mostly to get a laugh.
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Take the parts from a Porsche 959 and get to work.
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Originally Posted by AGENT 86
Take the parts from a Porsche 959 and get to work.
Hahahahah.
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
didnt mean to be picky, just that this section is for tech. info on repairing , upgrading etc. doesnt seem destroying a vette to make a 4x4 fits . its been done, Ive seen guys post pic's of it over in 'general'section, but its mostly to get a laugh.
I didn't say I wanted 4X4. I want AWD, but I brought up trucks because AWD is terrible on gas and I wanted to be able to switch to RWD for like summer. Basically what I want is to be able to drive to school in snow.
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Take the parts from a Porsche 959 and get to work.
That was one of the best cars of all time
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take the body off of a chevy blazer, put the vette body on
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Ditch the AWD drive C4 idea,

Install 2 SBC or BBC instead.

Couple the engines together inline like early saltflat & drylake race cars were done.

Have the 2nd engine right next to You inside.

LOL

That has never ever been done in a C4 before.

Be a very cool thing to see & watch run down the track somewhere.

Someone in Australia or New Zealand will pull that off some day.

They don't care & love to have fun 100% of the time.
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Buy a WRX.
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It's will probably look something like this underneath



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Almost forgot... this is how the C3's do it.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...ngray-awd.html
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Originally Posted by lespaul4563
I was hoping someone would reply with an intelligent answer, that's why it's in tech. Thanks though buddy.
I don't know how you're can acoomplish this reasonably. Here are the barriers as I see them:
*Front wheel placement
*Engine placement
*Steering rack location
*Front drive shaft and T-case fit
The front of the engine is about along the line of the center of the front wheels. To fit some type of diff (most likely a blazer/explorer/durango front diff) there, you either need to move the motor rearward...a lot, or move the wheels forward. Or I suppose that you could have rearward angled axle shafts using CV's. But then there is the issue of the steering rack.

I can't see a driver's side Tcase/drive shaft working at all. I'd concive using a passengers side unit which means finding a pass side front diff. Are there any? Then fabbing a new floor on the pass side to clear the mechanism.

I really can't see it working and keeping the aesthetics and geometry of the 'Vette, in place, using a longitundinal engine solution, even WITH complete front frame fabrication. There are simply too many things fighting for the same space; that which is along the centerlines of the front wheels.

If *I* were taking on this project, I'd go down one of these roads;
*Use an entire 3S (Stealth/3000GT) powertrain/running gear
*Use a Subaru WRX STi powertrain/running gear.
*An entire Audi powertrain/runnig gear -like an S4 system
I personally would use the 3S system. More displacement than the Subie, WAY better looking engine, and cable shift mechanism that would allow for easier shifter mounting/positioning. I'd TRY to use the stock Vette rear (since it acts as an upper control arm) but finding a rear ratio to match the front is obviously crucial.

Still, it would look weird underhood; the engine would be "too far forward" and there would be a bunch of space between the firewall and the rear valve cover/turbo. OR, you'd have forward angled axle shafts which I can't see being desirable.

EDIT: one other option would be to use the "LS FWD engine -the 5.3 V-8 used in the Impala SS/Monte Carlo SS and try to mate it to a GM/Saab trans/AWD system. Only advantage to this as I see it, over the 3S option is that you end up with a domestic V8 engine, that ought to bolt to the GM/Saab bellhousing/trans to achive the AWD that the Impala/Monte didn't use. In this system, you'd have all kinds of room behind the engine for turbos! Don't know how you'd steer the wheels though.

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If you any good behind the wheel you can drift a Vette on dry pavement.

Suggest a second vehicle for inclement weather use.
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Originally Posted by bill mcdonald
Almost forgot... this is how the C3's do it.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...ngray-awd.html
Chased this a bit, and found this.

This is the car doing a quarter mile. These people are insane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6_PT...eature=related

I wouldn't stand too close to that turbo, it would probably suck the hair right off your nuts

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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
I don't know how you're can acoomplish this reasonably. Here are the barriers as I see them:
*Front wheel placement
*Engine placement
*Steering rack location
*Front drive shaft and T-case fit

That's just about everything that you need to be perfect with AWD :P

My buddy owns a STi
We have actually toyed with this thought for awhile especially since Ken Block started driving a Ford.

Our conclusion?
Where in the hell is the fun in a Corvette if you can't break that *** loose, get a little sideways and throw some smoke?

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Where in the hell is the fun in a Corvette if you can't break that *** loose, get a little sideways and throw some smoke?
Well, it's in the winter, as the OP stated. I only know this due to my brief ownership of a Stealth RT/TT. In the winter, it was awesome for two reasons:
*You were still driving it. The 'Vette, you can not (not in Park City, UT anyway), so there is the advantage of being able to enjoy your car year round.
*Hitting boost in second gear when it was dumping snow down. Everyone else is crawlling along at 30 mph...petrified, and here I come, blowing by 'em ALL in a boost-on, 4wdrift. It was awesome, and totally controlable. More so than a truck of SUV due to the low CG, and wide stance. Just point the front wheels where you want to go...and it would go there. Fast. Safest, fastest thing I've driven in snow.

Downside is that when the sun DID come out, it was reletively boring. Stable, safe...not much you could do with it for "horse play", as you stated.
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That's why it would be switchable. How could I possibly get a different powertrain in the car?
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Originally Posted by lespaul4563
That's why it would be switchable. How could I possibly get a different powertrain in the car?
Switchable? So you want to cart around all the weight of AWD in the summer...but not use it??

But to entertain your idea, how could you possibly get a different powertrain in the car is simple; custom fabrication!

There is NO way around it; to get AWD in a 'Vette is going to require a ton of fabrication and unless you shorten or move the motor or move it backward in the frame about a foot, it ain't gonna happen. The harmonic balancer is right where the centerline of the axle shafts would have to be! The centerline! Not the added mass of the shaft itself, the housing brackets, the diff case... Won't fit.

So the alternative to to slam in a powertrain that was already designed for it; one where the axle shaft isn't trying to penetrate the crank shaft. How to get it in there? Custom fabrication of mounts, framework, everything to get the powertrain of your choice, in to the C4 chassis.

Honestly, if you want an AWD C4...buy a Stealth RT Turbo/3000GT VR-4. They basically ARE AWD Corvettes. Already built for you. In fact, I once went on a "Corvette Club of xxxx" Cruise, and several (6) of it's members asked us where we got a 4 seat Corvette! Sad, but true.

http://www.supercars.net/cars/2105.html

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