AH HA! Seems mystery solved. The ones I took out are black. PN 17087325.

I will call you.

Matt

 

Call me tomorrow I will send them right out, just return the 22 after, this should take care of the problem and it should perform better. Let us know

 

WILL-DO thanks.

 

That's the best example on why we deal with FIC
What time is it now ???? Look at it , and Jon is dealing with his customers , now that's excellent service , Jon should charge alone for the extra service and nice treatment he gives to us all !
I bet if you guys were having problems with the trick flows
from summit do you think they would offer a replacement set a year after ??? Let me know , FIC's the king !

 

Ive been in contact with Jon and FIC for years now, and I would NEVER ever think of someone else when it comes to injectors. The service and support and products he sells is AWESOME.

I have been installing these Bosch 3 in so many cars, Corvettes, Camaros, and even LT1 machines. And never ever had any troubles with the injectors, Always performed outstanding and the support and service from Jon and FIC is so good. Never meet any other company with that kind of service.

So I would never recommend any other injectors and Bosch III from FIC.
Ive re-sold 16+ kits this year alone here in sweden with them and everyone have been more than happy with the Bosch III install..

So all I can say, Buy Bosch III from Jon at FIC and you will be happy.

Regards,
Dan Norberg

 

I can tell yall that I had driveability problems with my car and made the call to JON @ FIC. We replaced my 80's with his 1000cc tall ls1 style injector. He answered all my questions,assured me the injectors would be spot on,took care of mail when the set went missing and my car just cleared 904 rwhp. With a guarantee of if you dont like them send them back for a full refund how can you go wrong. JON is one of the best vendors I and our shop have ever done business with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cpObZRg2wM

 

Read my posts, I have always said that Jon will replace any injector and that he provides excellent service. He even called you in South America.

My only complaint is that Jon said in a video that the Bosch 3 would drop in any c4 and the ecm would make any and all corrections. Now years later I am read about problems with the Bosch 3 especially in older C4s. That's what started this nonsense. People want to get it right the first time. It's not fun replacing injectors 2 or 3 times and then finding out that you need a tune. But some like to tinker with their Vettes so they don't complain. Other are happy that the Vette just runs. I'm very fussy. I'm also glad that in 4 years I never had to call Trickflow or anyone else about my injectors.

 

I saw the video, AWESOME, I'm jealous.

 

I see you joined and have posted 8 times. Each post praises Jon and FIC.

 

Fred i'm not convinced they are not drop in.. this morning we talked to two customers that called as a result of the poll. an 85 with long starts... we asked him to take a fuel pressure test, it was perfiect. had him noid the cold start valve 100% dead. The cold start has to work. The second guy called in said it runs well once it starts but it has a sloppy idle up down etc. and a 3 sec hard start, told him to replace the IAC he had a 90, he called back and told me the IAC fell apart when he took it out. The poll shows to many happy customers with all years. The OP with the steel headed 86 is in question, I sent him a new set of 24's which would give more fuel at cold start. He opted to do it with a tune. I spoke to him yesterday and he said its starting fine. So he acomplished the same thing. As of late we have been using 24 in the early 86's. Can't find any reports that are negative. Whats funny is if the cars are dead stock that these are acceptable drop ins. The only perfect injector would be the exact OEM.. A new oem multec sells for approx 165.00 each from GM. Thats $1320.00 per set. I'm sure owners are lined up to get those! The other aftermarket injectors are a universal fit also. For instance go to summit and buy the injector they list for a 90, they say drop in and they will send you a SMP 24.. But, since its summit you never question that. Do ya? You lurk on here like a vulture looking for a dead rat. Every neg post on starting performance etc. is automaticall blamed on us and the injectors. You post a responce that is usually some crap offering nothing. However, I never see you respond to a post that praises our products or that the car is running well. We strive to offer a low priced set of injectors for the average C4 owner that wants their car to get them where they want to go without wiping out their savings. I sould be comended for offering these and how we maintain our level of customer service!! We have never raised our prices on these for the last 5 yrs. We will take back any set against a new product and sit on the phone till all hours of the night talking to customers. I really need you off my back unless you are going to contribute something constructive to the threads. Thanks

 

FIC provides an affordable replacement for injectors that need replaced in our aging C4's. If you are like me and bought one of these cars because that is what your budget allowed then you will be happy with the choice as I am . I was having a hard start issue that cured with a new temp sensor . My car now starts and runs , which makes me happy cause it did neither before I installed the
b3's. If you are building a race car or mods that cost an arm and a leg you should have more expensive injector in mind anyhow . For my purpose and because Jon is one of the nicest guys I ever talked to I say buy Bosch 3's from FIC ! You can't go wrong

 

thanks Mike I appreciate that!!. For sure you had a hard start, you had Bosch 3's. It had to be that right? wrong it was something else. So how does that make the injector for your car not a drop in.. You put them in and away you went.. Thats how most of these installs go>>

 

After Ohm testing my Multitechs I found that at least four of them were bad. I replaced them with Jon's B3s. While the plenum and runners were off I ported and polished them and the top of the head intakes. The motor may turn a time or two more than it use to at start up but performance wise the seat of my pants are extremly happy! Seems to run up over 5K rpm without a hesitation. Thanks Jon

 

Jon:

I don't think you are reading my posts. I have said good things about your customer service. Your poll show that there are lots of customers with issues. I didn't start the poll. I have only told other members that I am very happy with the Trickflows. You and other members seem to think I am some kind of traitor because I didn't buy Bosch 3s from you. I mean they get real angry about it. The fact that you get calls all day and all night about injector problems should tell you something. I really believe that you do your best to solve the problems and I know you will refund anyone's money. This all started because I told another member that "there are alternatives that may work better" You claim to have sold over 3,000 sets of these injectors with few complaints. So why are you even concerned about me buying a set of Trickflows and posting that they work well?

 

dont see lots of problems, see one or two, quickly addressed by FIC, and thats out of 85 posts ...so far...only thing I've seen from this poll , and I knew it from my own research, is that with price, fit , customer service, and just generally fixing the problem...FIC still ROCKS.

 

FYI Fred go do a search on the third gen.org. Dan is a customer and has been for years, We have customers there too Fred... Dan knows more about TPI than anyone in Sweden.

 

This is crazy. Again I have been in this bussiness for over 35 years. I can tell you this and I am sure jon will concur there is no suck thing as 100% in anything automotive or for that matter just about anything. I will also say this just from the post I have read on here for the last year or so, Most of the people who have installed jons or any other injectors have little or no expericance with cars. I read a lot of posts and one of the first thing people jump to is bad injectors and convince people to install new. I would bet over half are just bad dianoise. and or even bad installation. But what does jon do he helps you thru the problem wheather it is his problem or not. He talks people thru the install when they have never touched a car. I do not know any retailer that will do that. And try to return something that you think is defective. Most places wont even take injectors back. I bearely know jon but I know this bussiness inside and out from all diferent angles and It is rare to see the standard in whitch jon handels his bussiness. If all bussiness were like this I would have a lot less gray hairs. 90% of the people you buy things from are ssales people they are lucky to know what they sold you looks like. After about 20 tranfers you may get someone who will help you. Do I think they are drop in for stock cars with out a doubt. this with great service I really do not know what more anyone could ask for.

 

Well there is some sanity on this forum after all! You have made some valid points and interesting observations. As far as Mr Penn. is concerned I think you hit the nail right on the head! Well said!

As far as this thread becoming a FIC billboard.... well it appears Mr. Penn is a big fan of FIC and you apparently are not. Thats OK, isn't that why we post here in the first place? Even with all the bickering some very usefull information is being posted and everyone can learn a little more about our C4's.... what to do when they break, how to make them better, faster, and more reliable. A little disagreable discourse enlightens the forum, even when you disagree with the guy thats always right, never wrong!
Enough already w/the bickering! Let the poll play out!

I will say I wish FIC and Jon's excellent customer service were around when I had to replace my failing OEM Multitechs way back in 2007. It would have made my replacement injector decision much easier!

 

Thanks Bud.. Ya know sex munths ago I cudnent evin spel Zalesman, Now I ar won!!!!! LOL all we want to do is give a good product at a good price and offer some service to boot. The service we give is not even expected. But, we do it anyway because thats the only way I know. These rebuilt injectors are cheep, They are cheep because I elect to make them affordable!. Napa sells a rebuilt injector of the same part number that we use for the c4 for $67.00 each. So does O'reily and Advance. My competitors would all like to see me raise the price, I won't and have not for 5 years. I don't get what these guys want. They must enjoy wasting time with these stupid posts that no one even responds to except the people they insult.

 

Have a good weekend. Even though we disagree, I still say you're a good guy.