A good Torque converter recommendation
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A good Torque converter recommendation
I have a 93 LT1 that has just returned from the machine shop... .30 over work done on the block, TFS 185 Cyl heades, comp cam 224 230 112* 503 510, 52mm TB, 30lbs injectors, msd opti with cables coil 6al2 and iridium plugs, shorty hooker headers, no cats, 10 series flomaster muffs with an X pipe where the resonator used to be. the 700r4 is in the shop for a rebuild, it has a B&M step2 shift kit. I will use the Vette as a daily driver/sleeper car. The topend kit is advertized to make 430HPs.... Ive been told to get a toque converter over 500 in the stall base on the cam that operates between 1800-5800rpm. So, will a 2200 stall be appropiate? Need help to make an informed desision. Thanks
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I have a 93 LT1 that has just returned from the machine shop... .30 over work done on the block, TFS 185 Cyl heades, comp cam 224 230 112* 503 510, 52mm TB, 30lbs injectors, msd opti with cables coil 6al2 and iridium plugs, shorty hooker headers, no cats, 10 series flomaster muffs with an X pipe where the resonator used to be. the 700r4 is in the shop for a rebuild, it has a B&M step2 shift kit. I will use the Vette as a daily driver/sleeper car. The topend kit is advertized to make 430HPs.... Ive been told to get a toque converter over 500 in the stall base on the cam that operates between 1800-5800rpm. So, will a 2200 stall be appropiate? Need help to make an informed desision. Thanks
I would put a 3K 9.5 " lockup Vigilante convertor in there. Trust me , it will kick but.
This convertor will be very streetable.
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I seen a place where you could buy pre-stalled vigilante converters, but idk rem where that was. Still I think the price was about the same as just calling them up and having a custom stall made and if I was gonna spend that much for a converter, I'd go the custom route.
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3K from Precision Industries (Vigilante), Yank or Circle D. All very good brands and they will drive really well on the street depending on the rear gear... 3.54 or 3.73 would be ideal.
Despite what Comp advertises, that cam is going to be pretty soft on power until over 2500RPM.
Will
Despite what Comp advertises, that cam is going to be pretty soft on power until over 2500RPM.
Will
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+1 for Vigilante (Precision Industries). I have been running their converters for decades. They are bulletproof. I lock up the 5 disk converters at full throttle and have never had a problem. I have a backup converter that never gets a chance to be used. I probably have over 800 runs on the current converter since it's last freshenup. Great people to deal with. The company is family owned. Terry is the dad that helps build the converters. Jack is the son on the phone who knows a lot. They will give you a free stall chance after the purchase.
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I have a 2400rpm Vigilante, but would never recommend over 2200 for a street driven car, you won't like it.
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SOunds like the Vigilante is a good choice, but I will give you one other to take a look at. It may be a little more expensive, but not sure. Probably depends on which converter you choose. I have a COAN Racing Converter. I sent in my engine specs and gave them my application and they came up with a converter for me. I haven't ran it yet but it did save a little over 20lbs, so if nothing else I lost 20lbs of rotating mass. 
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Why not over 2200rpm for a street driven car?
From everything I have read, the one thing I'm not clear and I guess its cause you need to feel it in order to know. All I can relate to "feel" you be when on a manual transmission you start to ease of the clutch in order for it to engage. This is the only reference I have of a lock up stall converter. So, if I were to use lets say a 2800 rmp stall, the vehicle will start to "ease" in or "slip" in to engaging the internal components of the transmission clutches from idle to 2800rmp? and after 2800rpm it automatically shifts through its gears starting from 1st? I'm I right?
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First, I thank you all for replying and giving me great information. I wish I can go max power everything on the Vette, but I'm trying to make it as drivable as possible so if I drive it to work for two weeks straight no biggie you know? The term spleeper is what Id like to go with because I think from the stock 300hp to over 430 is a decent respectable jump while keeping the looks stock. Heads will turn for sure just by the sound alone. Thanks guys.
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From everything I have read, the one thing I'm not clear and I guess its cause you need to feel it in order to know. All I can relate to "feel" you be when on a manual transmission you start to ease of the clutch in order for it to engage. This is the only reference I have of a lock up stall converter. So, if I were to use lets say a 2800 rmp stall, the vehicle will start to "ease" in or "slip" in to engaging the internal components of the transmission clutches from idle to 2800rmp? and after 2800rpm it automatically shifts through its gears starting from 1st? I'm I right?
I don't like how it feels more like a dog until the TC locks, or generally feels loose until it locks. Its not comfortable in every day driving.
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It will shift even without the TC locked up, so you may be in 2nd or 3rd depending on how you drive it, before the the TC locks. It feels like an extra shift in gears on mine.
I don't like how it feels more like a dog until the TC locks, or generally feels loose until it locks. Its not comfortable in every day driving.
I don't like how it feels more like a dog until the TC locks, or generally feels loose until it locks. Its not comfortable in every day driving.
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To recap: I have a 93 LT1 that has just returned from the machine shop... .30 over work done on the block
1. TFS 185 Gen X Cylinder Heads, fast as cast 54cc CNC Chambers
2. CompCam 224 230 112* 503 510
3. A 52mm Throttle body
4. 30 lbs injectors
5. MSD Opti with cables, coil, 6al2 and iridium spark plugs
6. Shorty hooker headers
7. No cats
8. Flomaster 10 Series mufflers with an X pipe where the resonator used to be
9. A rebuilt 700r4 transmission with a B&M step2 shift kit
10. An AirRaid filter element
11.TFS 1.6 Ration Narrow Body Roller Rocker Arms
I will use the Vette as a daily driver/sleeper car. With all the top end goodies its advertised to make no less than 430HPs. So, I'm seriously looking at the Summit Racing 3K Stall converter. Think I have a good plan? Let me know, your response is important, thanks...
1. TFS 185 Gen X Cylinder Heads, fast as cast 54cc CNC Chambers
2. CompCam 224 230 112* 503 510
3. A 52mm Throttle body
4. 30 lbs injectors
5. MSD Opti with cables, coil, 6al2 and iridium spark plugs
6. Shorty hooker headers
7. No cats
8. Flomaster 10 Series mufflers with an X pipe where the resonator used to be
9. A rebuilt 700r4 transmission with a B&M step2 shift kit
10. An AirRaid filter element
11.TFS 1.6 Ration Narrow Body Roller Rocker Arms
I will use the Vette as a daily driver/sleeper car. With all the top end goodies its advertised to make no less than 430HPs. So, I'm seriously looking at the Summit Racing 3K Stall converter. Think I have a good plan? Let me know, your response is important, thanks...
Last edited by GJ Camacho; Jan 6, 2016 at 06:50 PM. Reason: correct an entry
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I will use the Vette as a daily driver/sleeper car. With all the top end goodies its advertised to make no less than 430HPs. So, I'm seriously looking at the Summit Racing 3K Stall converter. Think I have a good plan? Let me know, your response is important, thanks...
I'd use the Vigilante for the simple reason that they will help you select your TC. You could have 2900 or 2800 or 2500 stall if you decide. YOU pick the stall and not them. Also, they have a 5 year warranty. But lets say you got the 2800 stall and didn't like it. Again, they have that covered. You get 1 free restall within 2 years of your purchase. So what if your trans grenades within 2 years? They will cut apart the thing and clean it as part of the "restall" within 2 years for free.
The Summit Racing brand is cheap because it's wanting like most cheap things are.
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You probably have to get it dyno tuned. Still, I wouldn't like to use the Summit TC. Exactly why did you choose that over the Vigilante? You either get a 2000, 2600 or 3000 stall. Take it or leave it. Warranty? 1 year unless racing.
I'd use the Vigilante for the simple reason that they will help you select your TC. You could have 2900 or 2800 or 2500 stall if you decide. YOU pick the stall and not them. Also, they have a 5 year warranty. But lets say you got the 2800 stall and didn't like it. Again, they have that covered. You get 1 free restall within 2 years of your purchase. So what if your trans grenades within 2 years? They will cut apart the thing and clean it as part of the "restall" within 2 years for free.
The Summit Racing brand is cheap because it's wanting like most cheap things are.
I'd use the Vigilante for the simple reason that they will help you select your TC. You could have 2900 or 2800 or 2500 stall if you decide. YOU pick the stall and not them. Also, they have a 5 year warranty. But lets say you got the 2800 stall and didn't like it. Again, they have that covered. You get 1 free restall within 2 years of your purchase. So what if your trans grenades within 2 years? They will cut apart the thing and clean it as part of the "restall" within 2 years for free.
The Summit Racing brand is cheap because it's wanting like most cheap things are.
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