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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 12:52 AM
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You didn't, by chance forget to detach this ground when you dropped the motor and transmission?
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 12:59 AM
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You didn't, by chance forget to detach this ground when you dropped the motor and transmission?
What do you mean? When I pulled the motor all things where detached from it.
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Alejandro Guerrero
What do you mean? When I pulled the motor all things where detached from it.
sometimes people forget to or are unaware of g107 and it's not uncommon for guys to drop the tranny and stretch and sometimes sever some or all of the 3 wires that go to g107. Sometimes a wire that has been stretched can look intact but it's actually damaged. You should check the continuity of those 3 wires going to g107.
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AgentEran
sometimes people forget to or are unaware of g107 and it's not uncommon for guys to drop the tranny and stretch and sometimes sever some or all of the 3 wires that go to g107. Sometimes a wire that has been stretched can look intact but it's actually damaged. You should check the continuity of those 3 wires going to g107.

That sounds like a possibility, can I find where the other end is in the book?
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Alejandro Guerrero
That sounds like a possibility, can I find where the other end is in the book?
Looks like the connections are:
  • Braided Ground Strap - From G107 to Chassis G101
  • Circuit 451. From PCM to G107
  • Circuit 151 From Ignition Control Module to G107
  • Circuit 350 From Windshield Wiper Motor to G107
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 12:28 PM
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Those pictures are a little different than mine but I may just be looking at a different page. Anyway I think I found at least part of the problem
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 01:00 PM
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Anybody got any idea what length I need to I can grab another? I tried measuring and couldn't get a good tell
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Originally Posted by Alejandro Guerrero
Anybody got any idea what length I need to I can grab another? I tried measuring and couldn't get a good tell
I bought 2 straps from autozone or orielly and attached them together,

This looks like the drivers side looking up. it looks like where the grounding strap is supposed to go from g107 to g102 chassis.
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AgentEran
I bought 2 straps from autozone or orielly and attached them together,

This looks like the drivers side looking up. it looks like where the grounding strap is supposed to go from g107 to g102 chassis.
What's the best way to do that and make sure the connection is good? should I sodder them together then wrap with Electrical tape or is there a special type of connector for straps
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Alejandro Guerrero
What's the best way to do that and make sure the connection is good? should I sodder them together then wrap with Electrical tape or is there a special type of connector for straps
Since its a ground strap I just used a small bolt, lock washer and nut and bolted them together. Solder prob be better but the bolt works for me.
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AgentEran
I've got the ground strap and g107 now bolted to the bellhousing, now it turns over but doesn't start and I see a small bit of smoke coming from somewhere behind the engine, it's never enough for me to see where it's comimg from. Could g107 having the other end pulled out a little like you mentioned before be the cause of this ?
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I dont think so. Sounds like you need to start over with the Spark, Air and Gas. One of these isnt happening.

The only way I see this g107 being related to a no start is if the ICM ground wire is bad. Check for continuity at the ground wire at the ICM itself and the end of the wire at g107.

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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AgentEran
I dont think so. Sounds like you need to start over with the Spark, Air and Gas. One of these isnt happening.

The only way I see this g107 being related to a no start is if the ICM ground wire is bad. Check for continuity at the ground wire at the ICM itself and the end of the wire at g107.
What could be the cause of that smoke? I'm still kind of worried about that
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 05:59 PM
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If you're getting smoke while cranking, I'd bet you are pulling a ground from somewhere it shouldn't be pulled for to crank.... thats just me though.
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 11:10 PM
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How many of these metal plates am I supposed to have? My leaf spring bag only has 5
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Old May 1, 2021 | 12:52 AM
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If you're getting smoke while cranking, I'd bet you are pulling a ground from somewhere it shouldn't be pulled for to crank.... thats just me though.
That's actually very astute suggestion. Although, that would certainly be very bad news. That basically means ur frying wires. The smoke would be coming from melting insulation right? 😬😬

Wires usually work better with their insulation in tact.. especially some 18 awg primary cable.
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Old May 1, 2021 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AgentEran
That's actually very astute suggestion. Although, that would certainly be very bad news. That basically means ur frying wires. The smoke would be coming from melting insulation right? 😬😬

Wires usually work better with their insulation in tact.. especially some 18 awg primary cable.
Yeah. I speak from experience with that... my boat... the generator ground failed so instead of using the 2/0 ground cable to crank, it was grounding through the 10 awg AC ground which was tied to the battery system via a house charger and galvanic isolator... on top of melting a little bit of wire, it would actually get so hot that it would burn the gelcoat that the buss was screwed to as well. Took a while to even notice the smell and then it kind of clicked.

If he is having grounding issues which it seems like the case... that would be a pretty reasonable guess as to what's happening in my opinion. Nothing else should get that hot and if it doesn't do it key on then I would mostly rule out a crossed or shorted wire too. Perhaps pulling the ignition wire off the starter and holding the key in crank could test the short theory however.
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Old May 1, 2021 | 06:55 AM
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Got the car running, the opti wire coming out the top was unplugged while messaging with stuff, haven't chased down the smoke yet but also don't see it when it's not cranking without starting. Now trying to source one of those leaf spring spacers. Going to clean up the garage today and hopefully find it.

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Old May 2, 2021 | 12:09 AM
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Just got a few things to finish up before she's all done. I've gotta figure out how to get the last parking break cable thing attached to the caliper and try to allign the rear suspension well enough to get it from the garage onto a trailer. I thought about messing with the exhaust bit I think it'll be easier to just trailer it to a muffler shop and have them whip something up
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