Looney tunes...that's Mike's speciality with his proprietary software.....

 

That I can relate to!

 

Be very careful, that guy, Rob is a real hack!!! Be sure you check his work very closely. In my opinion HE is what finally drove that shop over the edge! If it weren't for Andy, my car would have self destructed months ago! Do yourself a favor.... take a drive up to Ventura and pay to have Andy check your car over before it's too late. And while your there, ask him what they did to my car!

 

Mike Morgen is an arrogant Jac.... who brought his own business down on himself through a series of consistant selfish and thoughtless actions that cost many many car enthusiasts thousands upon thousands of hard earned dollars for sub par tuning and motor work!!!!

He tuned my car with 42# injectors and 10#s of boost. He left me too lean and I later determined that I was at a 152% flow rate on the injectors. I upgraded to 55#ers and retuned elswhere.
I can't prove it, but I believe he is partially responsible for my past cracked block prior to the injector upgrade.

Good riddance to this heartless individual.
JB

 

Wow.....That is a mouth full.....and your sounding very much like him now.....
He was arrogent..........He used to blow everyone off here on the forum all the time. Including me. He told me things that were less than accurate.
Less that honest, !!!!! And his work was less than acceptable, it just stunk!
I have spent thousands of $$ in repairs from his mickey mouse workmanship.

And that said, I do agree 100% with you.
You could not have said it better.

R.I.P.

 

That says it all!

 

MMS there... I feel better now. I just finished fixing all the things Morgan screwed up. I had to micro-inspect everything that MMS touched to be sure I wouldn't have more problems later on. Everything seems to be OK...I finally have the car I wanted 2 years ago.

 

We all got scewed by this guy HighRPM....... I have also had to go through ALL the MMS installed components, to replace / repair or verify that they were correct and installed properly. I can honestly say that over 75% of the work that was done at MMS was either wrong or defective. That is not even considering the damage they had done to the car while working on it.

I knew when I heard that you have them replace the entire engine, and R&D many situations, you would have issues.

I was sad for you, but glad that I was not in your shoes.

 

I don't hold it against any of you..because sometimes people just need to find out for themselves.

But I told each and everyone of you what I saw going on at his shop. Some of you even called me on the phone to tell me I was wrong...well I wasn't.
I was forced to go back to MMS for tuning because there was nobody else really out here on the west coast....he was like the "Soup ****" if you approached him wrong about anything "no tune for you". The thing I didn't get is when I talked to Mike he seemed like a really cool dude...but I think he was just a little immature to be running a business. If he could have taken some responsibility for some of the things that went wrong and truly made improvements when mistakes were made I think he would have eventually done ok...it just costs us a lot of money for poor business practices..unfortunately lawsuits can cost a lot of money.

The real advice I have is that when a forum member tries to help other members out...and he has some history...be opened minded enough to listen..if might end up saving you a lot of time and money. A lot of people have huge "Tuner Loyalty" without having ever had a problem..its like I always say...its not how you are treated when everything is going good..its how you are treated when things go bad. :flag

 

Hi Kevin.....I remember when I first talked to you about the problems at MMS....at that point I had already committed myself to the project.....I had paid well over half in upfront deposits and there wasn't anything I could do without loosing close to $20K. I was very concerned the entire time my car was at MMS, but all the warnings came too late...MMS had my $$$ and car and weren't about to give me a refund. My C5R motor is performing very well....who ever did the machine work and assembly did a good job...I have over 40 dyno pulls and everything is as promised. Most of the problems came from the MMS intake to the D1 Procharger being too restrictive. Also the D1 just isn't adequate for a 427....the recent changes to the F1-R made by Andy have solved all the issues and my car is all that I had hoped for. This good conclusion has made all the time and $$$ worth the effort. My $$$ story is small compared to one I heard about Hennesey and a guy's new Viper.


[Modified by HIGHRPM, 8:54 AM 4/21/2004]

 

I, like you Richard, came out "OK" with the short block they installed in my car. No problems there at all. But that's about where it ends. I guess I was fortunate in that because I live so close to their shop, I was able to visit the shop and monitor almost everything they did on a daily basis. In fact, I bugged the hell out of 'em! And I actually had relatively good luck with them up until the point where they fired Joe and Derek and brought in the "Hack". This guy.....friggin' destroyed my car!

 

It's amazing how many of us have been swindled by this guy.
I wish we could have filed a class action suit to recover some of our costs.
The damages ($$$,$$$$.$$) would have been well over 100K I am sure!


Bruce

 

Is Al at LAPD?

 

 

I heard Al was at LAPD.
I'm sticking w/Andy and staying as far away from those guys as I can!
When I did my taxes-I added up the money I paid MMS for my 427 C5R and related components-it was a little over $30K that I donated to MMS!
My terribly out of balance (MMS SAID IT WAS FINE!) totally untuned (MMS SAID IT WAS FINE!) 427 C5R spun a bearing after only 700 miles of easy break-in street operation!
So I took it to Andy-on inspection, the 2nd main bearing had spun and destroyed the block!
At that time and over the next several months, I discovered many many components were not installed, wrong ones installed, or original components reused, e.g. roller followers with 77,000 miles on them when I paid for new!
I don't have time to write out all of it, and I probably will never know all of it 'cause I'm replacing everything that MMS did! I just threw out the "stage III" heads which were hogged out so much the gasket was sticking into the chamber and required welding and remachining!
Again, I don't like to think about this stuff 'cause I start to cry and the salty tears may short out my keyboard!
Andy just about has everything sorted out now and shortly I'll have my dream car!
Roy





[Modified by 7.0sc SuperVette, 9:35 PM 4/21/2004]

 

Hey if you're throwing them away I'll give you a little cash for them!

 

Roy:
I feel for you.
That is sad..........but again you are not alone.
I have been there, and I have been doing exactly as you are, replacing everything, then we will have good cars..........
My heads were machined by maniacs, and were canibalized just like yours.
.
It looked rather ugly in there.
I was Surprised the heads worked as well as it did.
I should have my heads back from TPIS any day now. Then I hope to be happy again with my engine.
They Replaced the valves with the correct length in specification parts.
Checked everything out, springs are good (Manley) as well as the retainers.
Unfortunately, they could not help the heads....the hogged out area had too much material removed already. They couod not improve on the flow without risking further damage.


Live and learn.

Bruce

 

Here is my story with Mike and Rob. Out of balance spec III (even though I paid to have it balanced), Cross threaded O2 Sensor in header. Cracked Header collector from the install. Shimmed the clutch when the instructions say explicitly not to (result clutch slip and worn clutch after 1500miles). Didn't attach the secondary air system bracket to back of head and melted hoses and wires. Didn't re wire tie abs wires and many many others. Mike tuned the car very very lean. Only made 390 RWHP in a M6. So far it has cost me $5,000 to fix a $10,000 H/C, Intake and Clutch install. Car is at LAPD for a retune, clutch, and general cleanup of the shoty work.

Since MMS, I have done business with both Andy and LAPD. I am very please with both organizations.

 

shaheen, heck, I cannot feel toooo sorry for you, I had made it very clear to you many months ago, that they were a butcher shop....and even emailed you pictures of the horrible work they had done on my car. And this was before you gave them you car wasn't it?

UNFORTUNATELY, you had ignored my warnings....
Have mercy! I wish you had taken me seriously.
Bruce

 

Hey Terry, have you turned in your MMS pom poms yet?