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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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OK, I'll throw my worthless .02 in.

Stock for stock, it's about even, with maybe a slight nod to the vette.
3300lbs/350hp=9.4lbs/hp for the vette
3800lbs/400hp=9.5lbs/hp for the GTO
Both have IRS, but the manual GTO is difficult to launch properly which is shown in GM's official numbers giving the auto a .1sec advantage. GTO has narrower tires that can easily light up.

Assuming driver skill, track and weather conditions are the same, its very close. In the end, they are very different cars, though. The GTO is more of a "touring" car, that should more appropriately be matched to a BMW or such, rather than a mustang. One thing where the corvette excels is at higher speeds. The lower drag means that it will be pulling harder at the trap.

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You're also telling me a Corvette with the same motor is always going to beat a f-body? Not a chance. F-bodies usually have lower gearing, better weight transfer and have a solid rear axle. Two things that equal drag race pwnage. I own both cars and would generally take my WS6 over the Corvette for a drag race. No knock on the Vette of course, it's more at home on the road course as opposed the f-body that lives at the drag strip.
I own both as well. Lower gearing? The MN6 was 3.42 in both cars. The auto's were 2.73 and 3.23 (vs 2.73 and 3.15 for the vettes). Trannies had the same gearing. Live axle, yes, but with narrower tires and most weight was at front. Yes, they lauched harder, but by the end, vettes were always gaining even though I got the jump. 200lbs heavier. We're talking stock of course.....

I submitt that all 3 cars, C5 vette, camaro/TA, and ls2 GTO are all pretty equal in 1/4 performance. They fit different catagories. The GTO is a better touring car, my WS6 TA is just punch you in the face, raw fun. My C5 vette is better balanced, handles the best, etc.

There all GM, not rice so that's a good thing. In the end, though, who cares which one is .0001sec faster.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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I have an '01 stock vette coupe and 2 weeks ago I ran a 2005 GTO with a modfied exhaust. It wasn't a 0-60 time...but we beagn at 55 and let 'em rip. It was very even until we got to 120 or so...then my vette ever so slighty started pulling away. The vette won...but it was close. Best apples to apples comparison I have.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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Just to set the weight right my 00 COUPE was 3130 lbs without me in it with 1/2 tank of gas, so with a empty tank my coupe would be around 3100 lbs out of the box, the track we go to has a car scale.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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imho........its a drivers race,but so far i have had a good experience against one
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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I'd say it will be a very close race. Could come down to the driver as others have mentioned.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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two weeks ago my stock 6spd c5 01 pulled a gto bad on the hwy he was a auto, he made alot of noise, i shoved it into 3rd and by by
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Corvette Don
Wrong bud, the gto is about 600 lbs HEAVIER so how would 50 hp pull 600 lbs ahead of a c5 vette?? Mabye a auto but def not a manual, not going to happen.
That works out to about 12 lbs per hp. Seems to me
it's a wash. Maybe aero comes into play, but not enough to matter.
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No GTO ever beat me in the 1/4 mile! They never have the lead. Our gang rents the strip a couple times each year and GTO's always turn out. Vettes also eat Z28's for breakfast, not even close.
Ka tech in Cal is putting out some bad F-bodies.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Can we stop with the apples to oranges? Did the question ask which one was a better car? You can compare any two cars in a drag race. It has nothing to do with what "class" the car is in. That being siad, just look up their 1/4 mile times on the web if you really want the answer.
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Originally Posted by ptindall
Can we stop with the apples to oranges? Did the question ask which one was a better car? You can compare any two cars in a drag race. It has nothing to do with what "class" the car is in. That being siad, just look up their 1/4 mile times on the web if you really want the answer.
but driver has alot to do with it. my gf shifts her TT at 4k and thinks she flying the redline is 6500 never even in full boost. driver driver driver. ken gushi ran down a new vette with a tank 350z.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by screw991le
hahahaha.....
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nj02vette
I own both as well. Lower gearing? The MN6 was 3.42 in both cars. The auto's were 2.73 and 3.23 (vs 2.73 and 3.15 for the vettes). Trannies had the same gearing. Live axle, yes, but with narrower tires and most weight was at front. Yes, they lauched harder, but by the end, vettes were always gaining even though I got the jump. 200lbs heavier. We're talking stock of course.....
Exactly. You can say among stick cars, it's going to come down to driver. But if you catch an auto Vette in a f-body, chances are it's going down because of gearing. I haven't seen the build numbers for a while, but I am pretty sure 2.73 f-bodies are in the minority. No Vette is going to eat anyone's lunch as was mentioned earlier. It's going to be close or a nod in the f-body category.

However, this is the only instance I'm going to say f-body gets the nod. My Z06 will blow away my well-modified WS6 from anything other than a dead stop.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nj02vette
There all GM, not rice so that's a good thing. In the end, though, who cares which one is .0001sec faster.
Exactly, who cares.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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A vette will always be a vette, regardless of who wins, but a GTO is still a bloated Cavalier...
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Stingrayrob
A vette will always be a vette, regardless of who wins, but a GTO is still a bloated Cavalier...

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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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fact is c5 6 speeds are low 13 sec. cars and gto 6 speeds are mid to high 13 sec cars. judgement made!
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Stingrayrob
A vette will always be a vette, regardless of who wins, but a GTO is still a bloated Cavalier...
Haha, I guess that's better than having an undergeared piece of plastic.

Seriously the 3.42 in C5s and fbody is bogg city! Us Goats have C5 Z06 trans ratios, much better all around.

So I'm hearing it will come down to a drivers race. Stock GTOs have been known to dip into the high 12s, good driver low 13s easy, average mid 13s. We are under-tired for sure. 245s in back.

We come in at ~3700 lbs, maybe 500 lbs heaver? Power to weight ratio is C5 - 9.14 lb/hp, ls2 GTO - 9.25 lb/hp. Pretty damn close!
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Haha, I guess that's better than having an undergeared piece of plastic.

Seriously the 3.42 in C5s and fbody is bogg city! Us Goats have C5 Z06 trans ratios, much better all around.

So I'm hearing it will come down to a drivers race. Stock GTOs have been known to dip into the high 12s, good driver low 13s easy, average mid 13s. We are under-tired for sure. 245s in back.

We come in at ~3700 lbs, maybe 500 lbs heaver? Power to weight ratio is C5 - 9.14 lb/hp, ls2 GTO - 9.25 lb/hp. Pretty damn close!
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lsx24
We come in at ~3700 lbs, maybe 500 lbs heaver? Power to weight ratio is C5 - 9.14 lb/hp, ls2 GTO - 9.25 lb/hp. Pretty damn close!
Exactly as I posted before, very close. You have to add the weight of a driver, for more precise calculations which I approximated earlier.

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Haha, I guess that's better than having an undergeared piece of plastic.
I doubt its as great a difference as you think, besides, gears can be changed out. You can't change the GTO's body/frame.
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