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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nj02vette
I doubt its as great a difference as you think, besides, gears can be changed out. You can't change the GTO's body/frame.
haha, I'm comfortable with my ride. I guess it's love/hate....I love, you hate. PS, I don't have to change anything, nor do I have to be a gymnast to get in/out.

I bet our shorter gearing helps us get out of the hole quicker, obviously, perhaps quicker than a C5 to 60.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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i dont know stk to stk. but i just drove an 06 6spd gto with corsa exhaust and that thing does go!! i dont like the car as much as my C5 but it aint no slow poke. feels heavier though.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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What is this stock Vette you speak of ? I think the traction on the GTO would limit its ability to win.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lsx24
haha, I'm comfortable with my ride. I guess it's love/hate....I love, you hate. PS, I don't have to change anything, nor do I have to be a gymnast to get in/out.

I bet our shorter gearing helps us get out of the hole quicker, obviously, perhaps quicker than a C5 to 60.
What? The C5 is one of the easier sports cars to get out of?

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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245 tires are not wide, true, but they are wide enough to get a *good* launch for sprinting...the heavy weight [and weight transfer] works as an advantage here.


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What? The C5 is one of the easier sports cars to get out of?
Easy if you like *climbing* down into the seat which is 1" off the asphalt. You have obviously not experienced the ease of ingress of the GTO. Sit and go baby! No Kuma Sutra FTW!
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lsx24
245 tires are not wide, true, but they are wide enough to get a *good* launch for sprinting...the heavy weight [and weight transfer] works as an advantage here.

Easy if you like *climbing* down into the seat which is 1" off the asphalt. You have obviously not experienced the ease of ingress of the GTO. Sit and go baby! No Kuma Sutra FTW!
Let see, you're a GTO owner and a recently-joined junior member here. Considering this thread contains your first postings, mostly slamming the C5, I call TROLL!

Simply put: Corvette = Sports car, GTO = Sports sedan. Different markets, no real way to properly compare. Were you to compare them, the C6 would be the obvious comparison choice due to the date of release. Then again, against the C6 there is definitely no comparison.

IMO, the biggest downside to the current GTO is that it resembles the offspring of a Grand Prix and BMW 3-series. It blends in with just about every other two-door sedan on the road and very often goes unnoticed. Then GM attempted to differentiate by adding non-functional hoodscoops resembling those "stick on" scoops seen on other (ricer) cars and trucks . Hopefully the next generation GTO will be unique in its own right. I sure would like to see GM knock one out of the park with both the next-generation GTO (and Camaro).
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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With every word you said, I hardly notice them too, I thought it was a grand am when they first came out
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I'm sold my '05 Goat last year to buy my C5Z. As a previous owner of the Goat, I understand the attraction to the Goat. If you're a GM fan and are looking for an affordable car with some grunt...what has GM offered you in the past few years (after the f-body). NOTHING. It is an terrific car with nice lines and extremely well built. Thats why the Goat has a strong following and those who have one love them and those who aren't to familiar with them, slam them.

The GTO came out just a few years after I graduated from college. It was an affordable car with an LS1 the even better, an LS2.) You'll hear the older guys go "it's not the GTO I once knew." You're right, its a Monaro with an LS2, but to the younger generation looking to get in to an entry-level GM muscle (and avoiding the rice-way) it was a fantastic opportunity.

I was fortunate enought to grab the used Vette when the chance presented itself, however I continually check out goats on the street and strip. Looking forward to the '09 as well.
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Originally Posted by lsx24
Haha, I guess that's better than having an undergeared piece of plastic.

Seriously the 3.42 in C5s and fbody is bogg city! Us Goats have C5 Z06 trans ratios, much better all around.

So I'm hearing it will come down to a drivers race. Stock GTOs have been known to dip into the high 12s, good driver low 13s easy, average mid 13s. We are under-tired for sure. 245s in back.

We come in at ~3700 lbs, maybe 500 lbs heaver? Power to weight ratio is C5 - 9.14 lb/hp, ls2 GTO - 9.25 lb/hp. Pretty damn close!
GTO = lack luster Styling!!! IMHO its a grand am without the sharp body lines and thats the main reason why they didn't sell, but I give pontiac the nod for going the extra length and bringing a RWD v8 to its line up, Chevy screwed Fbody lovers
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Originally Posted by Covert 405
I'm sold my '05 Goat last year to buy my C5Z. As a previous owner of the Goat, I understand the attraction to the Goat. If you're a GM fan and are looking for an affordable car with some grunt...what has GM offered you in the past few years (after the f-body). NOTHING. It is an terrific car with nice lines and extremely well built. Thats why the Goat has a strong following and those who have one love them and those who aren't to familiar with them, slam them.

The GTO came out just a few years after I graduated from college. It was an affordable car with an LS1 the even better, an LS2.) You'll hear the older guys go "it's not the GTO I once knew." You're right, its a Monaro with an LS2, but to the younger generation looking to get in to an entry-level GM muscle (and avoiding the rice-way) it was a fantastic opportunity.


I was fortunate enought to grab the used Vette when the chance presented itself, however I continually check out goats on the street and strip. Looking forward to the '09 as well.

At Plus 30K its not a good buy or a entry level car, and lets be real GM has screwed us or them(non vette owners) and was perfectly cool with doing so , untill Mopar started putting out some RWD V8 cars
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Originally Posted by lsx24
Haha, I guess that's better than having an undergeared piece of plastic.

Seriously the 3.42 in C5s and fbody is bogg city! Us Goats have C5 Z06 trans ratios, much better all around.

So I'm hearing it will come down to a drivers race. Stock GTOs have been known to dip into the high 12s, good driver low 13s easy, average mid 13s. We are under-tired for sure. 245s in back.

We come in at ~3700 lbs, maybe 500 lbs heaver? Power to weight ratio is C5 - 9.14 lb/hp, ls2 GTO - 9.25 lb/hp. Pretty damn close!

CURB weight on a 06 gto is 3725 lbs add gas and a driver and you are just at about 4000 lbs, my c5 without me in it and a 1/2 tank gas is 3130 lbs so I am guessing the curb weight is around 3050, with me in it it was 3280 so the GTO would be 720 lbs HEAVIER[/B] (than a coupe, dont kow about convt and FRC) so do the math for 720 instead of 500 and you get LS2 GTO - 10.0 lb/hp and Coupe C5 - 9.37 lb/hp, not so close anymore is it...you owning a GTO and coming into a Corvette Forum and trying to tell everyone the GTO's are better is not going to happen, you will lose

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Originally Posted by LightFighter_GXP
At Plus 30K its not a good buy or a entry level car, and lets be real GM has screwed us or them(non vette owners) and was perfectly cool with doing so , untill Mopar started putting out some RWD V8 cars
You can pick up a used one for well under 30 w/ low mileage. 400 hp stock....I'd say thats a pretty nice entry level GM RWD car.

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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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As far as styling, it's a different beast altogether. Some like the "look at me I have a vette" style. Pretty loud if you ask me. Goes with the territory. Personally, I like skimming under the radar. I'm not into appearances as a priority. I think the GTO has a great stealth appearance. I love it! I LIKE not being noticed on the road...

Yes, the hood scoops are non-functional ram air, just like the ls1 Camaro SS, but they do evacuate heat from the engine bay, which is always a good thing. Helps keep IATs down. Also I think they add a aggressive nature to the front of the car, without going overboard. Ymmv.

QUOTE: my c5 without me in it and a 1/2 tank gas is 3130 lbs

I seriously doubt you are at 3130. Z06s are at that level. From what I recall C5s are closer to 3250, curb weight. Curb weight includes gas (at least C&D it does), as goes the 3700 lb curb weight of the GTO. You'r comparing 4000 lbs with driver to C5 non-driver? What kind of logic is that? That's a neat 500 lb dif. Not trying to argue just for the sake of arguing, but I think your facts are off. Have a link? Regardless the power-to-weight edge goes to the C5 by a small margin...

I realize we have swayed from the original question. Serves me right for posing about a Sports Sedan in a vette forum. There's always going to be bashers of the GTO, but it's holds it's own market segment. There is no competition. Picking up a low mileage ls2 GTO for low 20s is a sweet deal! They handle good for what they are, and with a few grand in suspension are M3-like. Not to mention, gotta love that ls2...

Seriously I am starting to believe it's a drivers race. One missed shift or one non-redline gear and whomever you are racing are instantly back a few car lengths. 50 hp is good (I dynoed 347 bone stock) and has great top end, where the ls1 starts to run out of air (reletively speaking). My vote: too close to call. But then again, how many C5 drivers actually can drive a stick?

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Just like everyone said... it's a driver's race or a TIE.

However, I like seeing these threads created because it gets C5 owners all riled up.
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Let see, you're a GTO owner and a recently-joined junior member here. Considering this thread contains your first postings, mostly slamming the C5, I call TROLL!

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Originally Posted by Ryan L
However, I like seeing these threads created because it gets C5 owners all riled up.
Haha thanks for the proof!
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Haha thanks for the proof!
Only proof of riling, nothing more....yet anyway. Bring it on!
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Hehe, I see no one wants to touch the getting-in getting-out thing...do all of you do your exercises every day to stay in shape to get in and out of your rides?

Btw what are some quarter mile C5 times? Have they been known to dip into the high 12's, like some GTOs on a good track good DA? What are average times?
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lsx24
Which would win? 0-60? And Quarter mile? Assume equally good drivers...assume STOCK.
WTF cares

Want to find out who wins - take them to the track.
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