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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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2015 should be next gen 'stang

http://jalopnik.com/5901492/2015-for...kers-get-kinky
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 12:50 PM
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This thread is GM's fault. It was never Mustang vs. Corvette until GM discontinued the Camaro and then nobody had anything to compare the Mustang to so it only naturally moved to the Corvette. Comparing the two cars is ridiculous as many have mentioned. Not because of any performance issues, it just that the two cars are in totally different categories. It's like comparing the Mustang to a Subaru. The results may be interesting for a read, but really, that's about it.

I really do like what Ford has been doing with the Mustang. They have been making great efforts over the past 7 years. I like the Camaro too, it just seems like GM is always playing catch-up though. Anyway, long story short it's nice to see the Camaro-Mustang rivalry back on!...and yes, there is a Challenger in there too I guess.
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ChromeC5
This thread is GM's fault. It was never Mustang vs. Corvette until GM discontinued the Camaro and then nobody had anything to compare the Mustang to so it only naturally moved to the Corvette. Comparing the two cars is ridiculous as many have mentioned. Not because of any performance issues, it just that the two cars are in totally different categories. It's like comparing the Mustang to a Subaru. The results may be interesting for a read, but really, that's about it.

I really do like what Ford has been doing with the Mustang. They have been making great efforts over the past 7 years. I like the Camaro too, it just seems like GM is always playing catch-up though. Anyway, long story short it's nice to see the Camaro-Mustang rivalry back on!...and yes, there is a Challenger in there too I guess.
I read there is talk of discontinuing the Challenger and making a new Cuda under the SRT flag.
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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I cannot believe we have 4 pages on this subject. It is an easy answer. The Mustang is a great car, but it was never designed to go head to head with the Corvette. It was originally a Pony car, not a sports car. I was there to do battle with the small block Chevy's such as the Nova, Chevelle and later the Camaro.
It does not matter how much horsepower you put in a Mustang, it cannot compete with the Corvette in the overall performance. Just look around at all of the different sports car racing series. You will not find a Mustang in any of the major series that you find Corvette in. They are in a few different lower divisions of the Rolex series and that is about it.
Mustang dime a dozen because of all of the different configuration you can get it in Great Job by Ford to market it that way. Good for the Drag strip or the stop light to stop light run, and that it was has fueled the Mustang group's to think as well as say they are Corvette killers. Put it on a road course with an under powered Vette and the Mustang will run second all day.
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by baxsom
i decided long ago to try to be a peacemaker between the sides and do this.

Awesome picture, thanks for sharing. I own a C5 but I gotta say that of those 4 cars my eye was most drawn to the steel bumper vert in the garage!
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Wood
I also have to believe that a car with a backseat and high horsepower is at odds with itself!!
EXACTLY my thoughts.... but then there are those times you want to take several people along...
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Silverback51
And you sir have a nice pair also.
hey!....leave my pair outta this!....
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by scott1094
I guess being older (69) I see this differently. In 1964 Ford offered the public a new vehicle, the PONY car. That first Mustang came with an inline 6 or small (260) V8. As the years went by it grew to a point that people no longer thought of it as a pony car. Then for some unknown reason, Ford decided to make it really small again (MustangII). Eventually, Ford put the Mustang on the Fox chassis and began to make it a fun and performance car again. Today the Mustang is a very competent performance car. Now, during all that time (1964-2012) the Corvette maintained its basic premise, a two seat sports car. The original competition from Ford was the Thunderbird but after three models it became a luxury car. I have lusted after both over all these years but when I finally had the opportunity I bought a Corvette. They should not be compared as equals because they were never intended to be so. Each has a purpose and they fill that purpose very well.

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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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I thought that I would add another layer to this topic. Whenever Im on the road cruising, traveling down the highway, or sitting in a restaurant parking lot having a burger, it never fails that somebody with a Mustang of one model or another (incl 6 cyl models) will either pull up next to me to start a my **** is bigger than yours conversation, or on the road hes riding up my TI exhaust, or coming from behind full throttle from a mile back to pull along side me to entice me into a race. In that scenario, I usually drop back a few mph to **** him off where he wants to look for somebody else. My point to this is there are some Mustang owners that obviously didnt get the apples/oranges memo. I dont even pay attention most of the time. Now a Porsche, I might give him a look see, but thats a little more understandable.
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JaxEagle
Awesome picture, thanks for sharing. I own a C5 but I gotta say that of those 4 cars my eye was most drawn to the steel bumper vert in the garage!
It is by far my favorite. 72 BBC convertible. Nothing like the sound of open sidepipes on a 454.
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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Stangs?? Stangs are for kids.
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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I love the Mustang. I've had many including a couple of Cobras. The '03 Cobra I had was a beast bone stock and fairly cheap for the performance level. With a CAI and cat back it was a hell of a beast and also handled well. The newer Mustangs are the best ever made. The v6 has the same hp rating as my '98 Cobra. Pretty amazing stuff. Ford makes pretty dang good cars for sure.
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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I took a peek at some Mustangs at the local dealership today. One was lime green metallic paint BUT was a V-6 with Recaro seats....no kidding! Who would waste a perfect set of Recaro seats on a V6?

The other was a plain white 2012 Shelby GT500 in the used car lineup w/1600 miles.

Almost as bad as the gussied up poser green V6, a fast car that looks like a Mom's kid taxi?
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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To this day I swear I will have a Termie in the garage...Before my Vette I owned a '97 GT and an '05 GT

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Always loved the "gurgle" that came from the exhaust










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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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On the lots of new cars today Mustang's top model is less then the Corvette's base model. It's not to say that the cost has everything to do with it because we know how Corvettes (Z06 and ZR1) along with cars like the GTR's can compete with other makes of cars that cost twice the price. But when you talk about similar manufactures and their cars it's kind of like the apples to oranges things. You have Corvette, the apple of GM's cars. Then you have the Camaro, the orange. Mustang is always going to be an orange and not an apple. Once in a while Ford has an apple too like the GT but even that is sort of skipping the small apples and going right to the bigger ones (GT compared to say the ZR1). Today's Dodge Challenger, another orange. The mustang might be the best of the oranges in some people's opinion. It has lots of models to choose from and is a good car. But it's still an orange. I like my apple.
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by STALION
Fords "answer" to the Corvette was the Ford GT...maybe not meant to go against corvette, but it is a better fit then a Mustang.
I think Fords answer to the original Corvette was the 55 Thunderbird.
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sablan'01
To this day I swear I will have a Termie in the garage...Before my Vette I owned a '97 GT and an '05 GT

and now some video just to keep thread interesting.





Always loved the "gurgle" that came from the exhaust










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ahhhh, thanks - nuttin like a screaming kenne bell with the beautiful exhaust note from a stang (esp a TERMINATOR)......
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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I'll start this by saying that I learned how to drive in a 66 Mustang with a 289 (notice that I had to qualify that it had a V-8. Nobody ever had to do that with a Corvette).
Starting in 2000 I owned 3 different Mustangs before purchasing my C5. The first was a 1995 GT convertible that was a garage queen with only 29,000 miles when I found it. That car was my "return from the dead" present to myself after a long and difficult divorce. Drove it for a little over 2 years and sold it at 83,000, when I found a 1996 Cobra convertible with 34,000 miles. Sold that in 2006 when I took delivery of a factory ordered 2007 GT convertible. I'm in the Corvette now because of the horrible experience I had with the 07 GT. I live on a barrier island and the 07 GT just had so many problems related to the environment here at the beach. I got frustrated, got rid of it and bought the Vette.
The difference between Mustangs and Corvettes are numerous, and vary greatly depending on which vintage of each you are comparing.

The original Mustang was a "sporty" car. Base engine was a 170 cubic inch inline 6. The original Mustang was based on Ford Falcon mechanicals. In reality, it was just a Falcon with a sexy body. I saw a photo in an old book about Mustangs that had a photo of one of the original designs with the title "Special Falcon."
Mustangs always had some semblance of a back seat. Corvette has always been a 2-seater.
The Mustang II was nothing but a reskinned Pinto. Most Mustang IIs were girls cars. Nobody ever said "when I graduate from college I'm going to buy a Mustang II," probably because they were horrible cars. Meanwhile, Chevrolet made Camaros to compete with the Mustang II, and the Corvette for purists.
Fox body Mustangs were a little better, but still came in non-performance versions. The performance versions had "5.0" labels on the front fenders. The only "50" on a Corvette front fender designated the 50th anniversary of production. Meanwhile Chevy kept making Camaros to compete directly with the Mustang, and all the while also produced Corvettes for those who wanted a true 2-place American sports car. Which brings us to today. Mustangs are much better than they have been, even as recently as 5 years ago. But I just don't see a new Mustang as a direct competitor to a new Corvette. Sure there are probably some special edition low production cars that compete with a Corvette, but then there are low production Corvettes that compete back. A Mustang still competes with and corresponds to the Camaro in the Chevrolet product line.
Someone said earlier that Mustang to Corvette is an apples to oranges comparison. I agree.

One final point. Mustang drivers don't wave to each other!
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One final point. Mustang drivers don't wave to each other!
hey!!!! watch out sir...i owned Mustangs for the past 15 years (and still have one) and i can say we did wave to each other!!!...lol

honestly, i think the ratio of those who wave is the same for both cars...at least my from experience so far in my C5
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by XPLOSYV
hey!!!! watch out sir...i owned Mustangs for the past 15 years (and still have one) and i can say we did wave to each other!!!...lol

honestly, i think the ratio of those who wave is the same for both cars...at least my from experience so far in my C5
i dont feel the same way-i nev get waves when in the ford, so i dont even think about waving
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