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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Black 02
C7 and mustang in the same sentence? What?
I know it's pretty weird to type that out and then read it. But in all honesty I've been in some awesome Recaro(Stock seats) in a couple of GT-500's and they are just as good as any C7 stock seat.

And the interior treatments are also comparable, I didn't mean this as a slam to the C7 at all, it's just they are the same basically and I like them.
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 1985 Corvette
Styling is subjective, you like what you like. If someone is trying to state the C5 platform is on par with the C7 platform stock for stock, that is incorrect. Looks like some of the C5 section has caught the "gangreen with envy" infection the C4 section had years ago. Those threads were so embarassing to read....glad they finally grew out of that phase. Fight the infection, C5 section, FIGHT IT!
Are you kidding me ? If I wanted a C7 I would have been one of the first in line to order. Maybe I should order just to make you feel better because I like the beauty of the C5 and the C7 does absolutely nothing for me except to think why would someone want this overdone import look-alike. Your not the first one to make this comment. Sounds childish to point at envy as the reason some people don't want this car. It's a fact that some people including me really don't like or want this car.
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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It's a fact that some people including me really don't like or want this car.
Yup. (Though I will admit to having C6Z envy).
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 10:13 PM
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Faster in a straight line does not equal better.
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 11:47 PM
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Faster in a straight line does not equal better.
Yes it does....they don't call 2nd better.

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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97
Holy **** dude. Don't bother with people who diss on the C7. It happens, and will continue to happen with every generation. It's the same people who diss on a past generation, and yes, there will be those who own a C7 that will say the C5 or C6 is a worthless POS, just like some say the C4 is crap. Those aren't car guys nor are they Corvette guys. They are me people.

Don't let people on the internet get under your skin.
I wasn't arguing actually. I was attempting to give a fair and balanced review as someone who has owned numerous Corvettes, including 2 C5 Z06s.

Some people simply have glue in their ears.

Originally Posted by 123Gone
I don't own a C7, but I have driven one. Three things I don't like about it:

1. The butt is too gaudy.
2. The steering wheel is ugly.
3. The dash/console handle badly needs to go. It's in the way and ugly.

The subjective stuff I'll leave alone, but exactly what is that handle in the way of?
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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sfc rick
I'm pretty sure no one is that ignorant, however most have C5's that are far more powerful, customized, and just better cars than a stock C7. The C4 guys way back when had a pretty hard time overcoming the LS platform from the very start.

The LS platforms are so much easier to upgrade, as well as the C5/C6 suspension and drivetrain.

So no one is saying what I "think" you were implying. The new C7 is nothing but an extension of it's previous generations, NOT the end all and be all.
Hey, I can't argue with that. Picking up a used C5 puts you way ahead of anything that came before, and parts are everywhere. That's a great idea (and more fun building) for someone not wanting a car note again.



Originally Posted by bj1k
Are you kidding me ? If I wanted a C7 I would have been one of the first in line to order. Maybe I should order just to make you feel better because I like the beauty of the C5 and the C7 does absolutely nothing for me except to think why would someone want this overdone import look-alike. Your not the first one to make this comment. Sounds childish to point at envy as the reason some people don't want this car. It's a fact that some people including me really don't like or want this car.
My initial post wasn't just a friendly jab at C5 guys but the C4 group I'm usually around as well. We've all been subject to envy in our lives at one point or another, it's a natural process. It gets a little crazy when you see thread after thread on the same discussion, usually with the same posters, the same replies. Starts to make you wonder.
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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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OK, my take....
IMHO The C7 (and the C6) is not a corvette. It is a fabulous sports car and an incredible value, but Corvette's have hide-away headlamps.

As to the problems, well GM always has fits with any new year car, and so does Ford and Chrysler. I thinks it's a USA thing....

IMHO the C5 is the last of a dying breed. A largely "mechanical" sports car. Since 2008, there are virtually no high performance cars that do not contain excessive gobs of electronics. Even the C5 has a more than I'd really like.

Everybody ought to read the Autoweek that has the article in it about how auto electronics can be hacked. It will certainly give you something to think about.

I'll keep my C5, modify and keep it in good shape, and drive it until they bury me in it.
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by irloyal
OK, my take....
IMHO The C7 (and the C6) is not a corvette. It is a fabulous sports car and an incredible value, but Corvette's have hide-away headlamps.

As to the problems, well GM always has fits with any new year car, and so does Ford and Chrysler. I thinks it's a USA thing....

IMHO the C5 is the last of a dying breed. A largely "mechanical" sports car. Since 2008, there are virtually no high performance cars that do not contain excessive gobs of electronics. Even the C5 has a more than I'd really like.

Everybody ought to read the Autoweek that has the article in it about how auto electronics can be hacked. It will certainly give you something to think about.

I'll keep my C5, modify and keep it in good shape, and drive it until they bury me in it.
You do that, stick with your way outdated C5. The last true vette
Yea the C6Z isn't a real vette by any means because of its headlights.

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Originally Posted by irloyal
OK, my take....
IMHO The C7 (and the C6) is not a corvette. It is a fabulous sports car and an incredible value, but Corvette's have hide-away headlamps.
Originally Posted by Lifted07Sierra
Yea the C6Z isn't a real vette by any means because of its headlights.
Another non-Corvette:
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 10:15 AM
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I don't hate the C7, just the back end. It's still a Corvette so it's part of the brotherhood, not a fan of early C4's(84-90) or base model C6's but still respect the owners since they chose to own a Vette.
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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I sure have read a lot about the C5 vs. C6 vs C7 here in the C5 and the C6 sections. Lots of mixed reviews as to be expected. But after all this I too feel that the back end could have been better designed. Keeping the oval tail tights is like Grocho Marks keeping his mustache or Lauren Hutton's space in her teeth. It's a trade mark. You don't see Pepsi or CokaCola changing their logo. I'm not a Ferrari expert but those round tail lights are on a lot of models over the years. If they kept the tail light, I think all would be good. Someday I hope to own one too!



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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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"If it doesn't have round tail lights its not a Vette", "If it doesn't have popup head lights, its not a Vette", If it doesn't leak when it rains, its not a...." (oh wait. that one's mine)

Sheesh people, take a breath! Its not like they pulled a Ford when they slapped a Mustang logo on an econo-box.

Its a Vette!
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by irloyal
OK, my take....
IMHO The C7 (and the C6) is not a corvette. It is a fabulous sports car and an incredible value, but Corvette's have hide-away headlamps.

As to the problems, well GM always has fits with any new year car, and so does Ford and Chrysler. I thinks it's a USA thing....

IMHO the C5 is the last of a dying breed. A largely "mechanical" sports car. Since 2008, there are virtually no high performance cars that do not contain excessive gobs of electronics. Even the C5 has a more than I'd really like.

Everybody ought to read the Autoweek that has the article in it about how auto electronics can be hacked. It will certainly give you something to think about.

I'll keep my C5, modify and keep it in good shape, and drive it until they bury me in it.
I've said it all before. Except you do have to agree that the early ones are really corvettes.
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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I sure have read a lot about the C5 vs. C6 vs C7 here in the C5 and the C6 sections. Lots of mixed reviews as to be expected. But after all this I too feel that the back end could have been better designed. Keeping the oval tail tights is like Grocho Marks keeping his mustache or Lauren Hutton's space in her teeth. It's a trade mark. You don't see Pepsi or CokaCola changing their logo. I'm not a Ferrari expert but those round tail lights are on a lot of models over the years. If they kept the tail light, I think all would be good. Someday I hope to own one too!


I glanced at those pics and my first reaction was, "nice clean new car design" when I looked at the C7. Then I looked farther down and thought "wow, look at those big weird round taillights" when I saw the C6. I wasn't thinking about heritage or trademark or history; I was just looking at pics of cars and letting my mind reach its own honest conclusions.

I own a C5Z and thought I'd hate the C7 styling, especially the back end. But it has really grown on me and I realize now what GM has done. They threw out tradition and made a new, modern design that can stand next to the current competition proudly. I think it was a great move and the more I see the C7 in person or pics, the more I love it.

My C5Z has the most amazing combination of good traits I've ever experienced in any vehicle. For just one example, who knew a car could ride so comfy yet handle so well? It's an awesome car and I enjoy it every day. But I'd trade it for a C7 in a second without looking back. GM has moved on, folks. They'll get past the teething problems, just like how they resolved the valve spring failures I feared may hit my LS6. Quality Control or Engineering failures don't define a car, because they are temporary and get corrected over time.

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Keeping the oval tail tights is like Grocho Marks keeping his mustache or Lauren Hutton's space in her teeth. It's a trade mark.
What about the 90 ZR1 and 91-96 Corvette's with "the rear convex fascia" and square taillights?



Back then(and still today) some people with 84-90 Cars would put the ZR-1 square tail light bumper on their cars..even today myself and the majority think the 91-96 Cars look better then the 84-90 cars but can you imagine someone with a C6 putting the C7 bumper on today?

In 1990 I don't remember ever thinking the 84-90 Cars looked better then the ZR-1 but today I can honestly say I like the C6 better from the rear but I don't know I think it has more to do with the fact the C7 rear looks so similar to a V6 Camaro and not the square taillights that bring the hate. In 1990 nothing looked like the mighty ZR-1.

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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 10:40 PM
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They make different cars so people can buy what they like. No sense in arguing about it, because we all see things differently. But it never hurts to have a discussion about what you like or don't like about different models. I'm pretty sure I will never buy a C7 but I did think I would like the C7 Vert when I saw one. After seeing this picture of the C7 Vert......I'm not felinit!



I'll be keeping this one!

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I sure have read a lot about the C5 vs. C6 vs C7 here in the C5 and the C6 sections. Lots of mixed reviews as to be expected. But after all this I too feel that the back end could have been better designed. Keeping the oval tail tights is like Grocho Marks keeping his mustache or Lauren Hutton's space in her teeth. It's a trade mark. You don't see Pepsi or CokaCola changing their logo. I'm not a Ferrari expert but those round tail lights are on a lot of models over the years. If they kept the tail light, I think all would be good. Someday I hope to own one too!
Hmmm...

Oval tail lights were used in 1 generation of Corvettes. Square tail lights were used in more generations than oval.

Just an reminder.

And lets be honest here. There C7 is WAY too edgy to have round tail lights. I don't get the purist idea that Corvettes need two round tail lights. If I recall correctly, the 53-60 Corvette didn't have 2 tail lights on each side. It had just one. The 91-96 had square tail lights.

If anything, there would have been nothing wrong with the C7 having just 1 square tail light and it would have STILL been in Corvette tradition.

I think people get hung up on era-specific styling as if that's what makes the car. Purists like myself (because we know there's lots of different types), would say that what makes the Corvette a Corvette is 2 seats and crazy good bang for the buck performance. The Corvette was started as the sports car the working man can afford. I don't see anything that has changed in that respect.

Honestly, the only generation of Corvette I've never really been a fan of is the 1st generation. They're great looking cars, but I wouldn't want one myself. But, like others have said as well, I would respect any Corvette owner for their choosing to drive a Corvette.

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Still Love my c5 vert, . certainly would bite on a c7, perhaps near future...has to be tri- blk convert ! where are they anyway.?.. they have to be getting close.
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Once again you can't have a fun discussion without someone putting words in your mouth.

Maybe I should have said "oval like" or seperate brake light "thinges"

And yes the Lamborghini Diablo does not look edgey at all because it has round lights!


We had a owner of a Chevy dealership at last nights Corvette Club meeting. When he was at training in Nevada(?), he said that the Corvette Racing team was involved in the design from the ground up. Much of this car is designed for racing. After hearing everything that was done to the car you just wanted to put money down right there to get one.
After track time (C6z & C7), he said that the car (C7) drives way above any stock Corvette he has ever been in.
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