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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Black 02
And what happens when you modify a C7?
A great opportunity to line'em up.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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I test drove a C7 the other day. (and test drives are hard to come by), and I couldn't believe how much it "felt" like my 01' vert. The steering was nicely weighed and the clutch, the same. I didn't drive it fast, just leisurely. The C7 interior is a design nightmare. The analog speedometer was blocked by the steering wheel. (not good). It was more cramped and poorly designed IMHO. I did put a deposit on it but I backed out because I liked my C5 too much.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FRANK J CARCIA
To much electronics is never a good things. Its way to finicky for me. I own a 09 & 2011 gm cars and they scare the hell out of me once the warranty runs out. Reprogram this and reprogram that. And I'm sure it's not just GM. Maybe showing my age.
I couldn't agree with you more Frank. With each generation of Corvette or any other car for that matter there are more electronics because most buyers want the bells and whistles which become the growles and groans when the cars get older and the electrical nightmares start showing up and the average owner can't fix them. Keep your eyes on the new C7 as it gets older . From what I am hearing , practically everything on the car has some kind of electronic control and electronics need good grounds which is hard to maintain on a plastic car like a Corvette. Will be interesting.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bpenn8966
Butt ugly. (Pun most definitely intended)

That is the worst possible angle for the C7.

Yes, I get that this car is technologically advanced. So is a Prius. It's ugly too and I wouldn't be caught dead in one.

No, I'm not saying a C5 is "better" than a C7; I am saying the C5 is better looking. So is a C6, even the base model which isn't all that attractive.

Note to C6 owners: Please, please buy C7s in large numbers to drive down the cost of C6Zs. Especially one of you guys with a nice Atomic Orange one. I'd like to talk to you in a few years.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 01:23 AM
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I agree with above. I've seen two in person now. I was excited the first time because... well... first time seeing a C7 and it was red with black interior. I absolutely respect the tech.

But when you LOOK at a sports car, what do you FEEL?

When I look at a hot car, I feel it. Let's call it turned on. There is a visceral reaction when you see a hot car. I have none of that with the C7. I know full well what it is capable of, and I would love to have the drivetrain swapped over to my car, but even later when they resell as used cars.... I don't ever see myself owning one. Closest I would get is a C6Z... which is really the only C6 I find "attractive."

As for the issue in the very first post... the only thing I consider problematic is the shorting issue. Anything and everything else is easily replaced or fixed. For a $70,000 car.... I tend to agree that I would want it to be without basic issues, and I believe the C7 is just that: without basic problems. This fit and finish or working out weak supplier parts will be remedied. These ARE GM cars, after all. My first C5 had weather stripping falling off and BSM misaligned at delivery as well as headlights and interior lights shorting/failing and eventually a list of other problems which were entirely factory related. But think of the car you ARE able to get out of a C7 for $70,000.... performance comparable to much more expensive cars.

But like I said above... GM has not earned my greenbacks. It's a wonderful car. Too bad it's just not sexy. Like meeting a girl with the perfect ***, then she turns around and has a hook nose. If you got a piece of it, you'd tear it up and leave it... not hold onto it and love it.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 06:48 AM
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If you'll think this is ugly then you'll don't know what looks good .... Notice the rear ...






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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by James2002z06
If you'll think this is ugly then you'll don't know what looks good .... Notice the rear ...






You can put them in my garage all day long.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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Now seeing it in a convertible is a whole different story. Much nicer , but still not the beauty of the C5.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 03:35 PM
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For the money, for a boxy ugly duckling.... I'd opt for the GT-R. And I don't like imports.

Too bad the Viper isn't selling. That car owns the C7 in appearance and build. Though I am sure a supercharged non track-friendly version will come out so there is a C7 with more power and/or faster 1/4 times.

I will sit back and hold out hope for the expected Z version of the C7.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Phanni
You need to read All Corvettes are Red, seriously.
Then you'll be able to post with some real knowledge.
You are not the first to find my opinions lacking a certain something.

However, I might suggest to you, in the fture, that you post the relevant correct information from the book you recommended so that any bad information is corrected as rapidly as possible. I certainly don't want to spread any mis information.

I am sure the recommended book is nice, yet I have passed on many an opportunity to pick it up. I have read a heck of a lot of side bars in magazines, if that helps.

I do occasionally like books about machines, just find other machines more interesting. I recommend the motor book I just finished about Fire Engines.

While I am unable to quote Corvette literature, I now know the difference between a Fire TRuck , Fire engine, and plug ugly.
I don't have any Corvette bar ware either. In truth the only GM book I ever read was the John Deloran book about GM. Probably because it was negative.

AS an aside, I saw the original shark corvette a couple of week ends ago. Never knew it was a two tone fade paint job. With little shark gills on the front sides. A shark car. Surprising to me, because I always assumed that it was a car with design elements inspired by the shark, instead of a car made to look like a shark, which of course, goes in two different directions, one mechanical, the other organic.

I do not know the design goals of the project. I simply looks like they wanted to make a car that had gills, a few little fins and was two tone painted like a shark. Not as sophisticated as I expected , yet a great part of the appeal.

P.S. My Corvette is black. You might want to fact check that book . Bwaaahaa ha ha.

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 08:23 PM
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Well you're comparing a car that costs $75k+ to a car that costs around $15k

I think they did a great job with the C7, aside from the taillights and I love my 01 Convertible but If someone offered me a C7 straight up of course I'd take it but I'd rather have $50k and a nice C5 right now.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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My friend you need to check your math 50,000 + 15,000= 65,000 not 75,000 You'll have 60,000 plus your 15,000 C5
I also agree with you ... I would take one in a heart beat though ..

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by oldC5
My friend you need to check your math 50,000 + 15,000= 65,000 not 75,000 You'll have 60,000 plus your 15,000 C5
I also agree with you ...
Imagine what you can do to a C5 with $60,000.......?????

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I've got 60,000 in a C5 now ...... And for what ?
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by James2002z06
I've got 60,000 in a C5 now ...... And for what ?
A kickass C5.....that's what!

Look think about this, A guy spends $$70,000 for a C7 and in 5-8 years it's only worth $30,000.

You spent $60,000 and it's only worth half as much too.

Damn.....lost my train of thought....LOL!
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Originally Posted by sfc rick
A kickass C5.....that's what!

Look think about this, A guy spends $$70,000 for a C7 and in 5-8 years it's only worth $30,000.

You spent $60,000 and it's only worth half as much too.

Damn.....lost my train of thought....LOL!
$60k will buy a lot of checkers!
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Originally Posted by James2002z06
I've got 60,000 in a C5 now ...... And for what ?
For all those first place trophies.... my friend.... My wife tells me it's only money you can't take it with you when you die. That's what she tells me when the UPS comes with her shoes....

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I want one in my garage....

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I want one in my garage....
Only a UNC Tar Heel fan would want it that color.
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I like the C7 but am gonna wait to see the C7Z....I don't really like the the rear but could live with it but I would never pay 20K over invoice for any car. I would also love to have a C5Z, C6Z, and a C7Z in my garage.
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