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Grow up tard. I never said any such thing. I am merely pointing out how GM made a 70 thousand dollar car that has more problems than a 2 thousand dollar Yugo. Maybe you are dumb enough to pay 70 grand for a POS but my 70 grand Mercedes never had even one problem the entire 4 years I owned it. THATS what I expect from 70 grand... PERFECTION.
GM has a habit of producing cars that are not what they claim to be and then fix the problems on the fly, or ignore them completely.
But why all the hate on here for the C7? I can understand liking what we have, but hating on the C7 to justify it? Oh well.
Last edited by RetiredSFC 97; Nov 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM.
I love my C5Z, but I also love the new C7, I think it is a triumph of design and engineering just as much as the C5Z was when it came out.
Engineering is pretty objective, more power, better aero, better cooling, better grip, better dash/display, cool infotainment, just plain awesome.
Design wise I think it is stunning. Front end resembles a Ferrari, rear end taillights look more like the outgoing Camaro than the Corvettes. But so what? Seriously? Did everyone complain as much when the C6 got rid of pop up headlights? I've been behind the C7 and it looks mean from behind, and I love the rear vents by the tailights to vent the diff and trans coolers. Brilliant! I wouldn't change a thing.
I would buy a C7 in an instant! Love the C5 but love the C7 more! And since when was the C7 a $70,000 vehicle... It's more like a $53,000 vehicle unless the ones that are $70,000 are the only ones having production issues.
Was your Mercedes a first year build on an all new design? Just because your Mercedes never had any issues, doesn't mean all of them have never had any issues. And before you sound off on how great Mercedes is, as it stands today, GM has an average of 90 issues per 100 vehicles and your trouble free Mercedes? Well, they have 106 issues per 100 vehicles......sounds like GM is doing just fine. It's unfortunate that we hear about all the issues of the C7 instead of the successes.
GM has a habit of producing cars that are not what they claim to be and then fix the problems on the fly, or ignore them completely.
But why all the hate on here for the C7? I can understand liking what we have, but hating on the C7 to justify it? Oh well.
The Corvette has had initial quality issues in the early C4, but post '91 the issues have gotten less and less. The build quality of the C5 over the C4 is noticeable, same goes for the quality of the C6 over the C5. While I haven't sat in the C7 yet, I can only hope the level of build quality has improved yet again. But this is an entirely new design where the C5 to C6 had much to carry over.
If GM kept the same tail lights as the previous models, would all this bickering still take place? Perhaps those (not everyone) that don't like the C7 also can't afford one. I would love to have a car from each generation but those Loto numbers are not working.
I would rather fly a Bi plane than a jet, so performance for its own sake is not my deal. A C7 is an even more outrageous display of overconsumption than my C5. I'm in a C5 because it is a nice quality convertible, not because I like to suck gas. I do enjoy the car quite a bit.
The C5 , as I understand it, was an attempt to break from the old GM ways and begin anew, with lots of German engineering hired into the deal. I think the car made those goals. I wonder if it made its' sale's goals.
I also see the old GM culture seeping back into the line. I saw a cornball C6 Vette for $110,000 on the sticker, sitting on a showroom floor covered with little barney oldfield looking cartoon faces all over the trim, supposedly the Chevy namesake. I guess someone's wife was into fancy handbags , so they thought emblems would be good, the more the better. GM cornball culture. Find an emblem on another high end performance car, they are discreet. You either know the car or you don't, no hitting you over and over again visually, with the type of car I own, look at me. Few people care.
That same GM culture keeps people away from new GM models. Every company has issues with new products, but GM seems to like to let the customers do the final testing, over a period of a few years.
On the positive side, last Friday night, a couple of guys assumed my car was a 2013 model. They said they were big GM fans, but only like the old stuff. Really liked my car.
I regret that crack about overconsumption, and returned to say I am not the judge. I try not to be adversarial in my comments but sometimes screw it up.
Last edited by strand rider; Nov 8, 2013 at 03:44 AM.
Reason: big mouth regrets
While at the dentist this morning I was reading Car & Driver special Porsche 911 50th edition. They put the C7 against the 911 and it was a close fought battle. They said this was the first Corvette to beat the 911 not just on $$$ ($60k-$80K cheaper), but on sense.
They also said everywhere they went in both cars, the C7 drew a crowd, nobody noticed the 911.
I myself love the C7 lines (but also hate the *** end). I will own one in a few years.
I would rather fly a Bi plane than a jet, so performance for its own sake is not my deal. A C7 is an even more outrageous display of overconsumption than my C5. I'm in a C5 because it is a nice quality convertible, not because I like to suck gas. I do enjoy the car quite a bit.
The C5 , as I understand it, was an attempt to break from the old GM ways and begin anew, with lots of German engineering hired into the deal. I think the car made those goals. I wonder if it made its' sale's goals.
I also see the old GM culture seeping back into the line. I saw a cornball C6 Vette for $110,000 on the sticker, sitting on a showroom floor covered with little barney oldfield looking cartoon faces all over the trim, supposedly the Chevy namesake. I guess someone's wife was into fancy handbags , so they thought emblems would be good, the more the better. GM cornball culture. Find an emblem on another high end performance car, they are discreet. You either know the car or you don't, no hitting you over and over again visually, with the type of car I own, look at me. Few people care.
That same GM culture keeps people away from new GM models. Every company has issues with new products, but GM seems to like to let the customers do the final testing, over a period of a few years.
On the positive side, last Friday night, a couple of guys assumed my car was a 2013 model. They said they were big GM fans, but only like the old stuff. Really liked my car.
You need to read All Corvettes are Red, seriously.
Then you'll be able to post with some real knowledge.