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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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I would rather fly a Bi plane than a jet, so performance for its own sake is not my deal. A C7 is an even more outrageous display of overconsumption than my C5. I'm in a C5 because it is a nice quality convertible, not because I like to suck gas. I do enjoy the car quite a bit.
If you don't like to suck gas perhaps you should upgrade to the more fuel efficient C7
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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I don't think this is going the way the butthurt OP had hoped.
normally the way it works
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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To much electronics is never a good things. Its way to finicky for me. I own a 09 & 2011 gm cars and they scare the hell out of me once the warranty runs out. Reprogram this and reprogram that. And I'm sure it's not just GM. Maybe showing my age.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FRANK J CARCIA
To much electronics is never a good things. Its way to finicky for me. I own a 09 & 2011 gm cars and they scare the hell out of me once the warranty runs out. Reprogram this and reprogram that. And I'm sure it's not just GM. Maybe showing my age.
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I wasn't too thrilled when the 2005 came out, but the Z06 and GS significantly improved the looks of the C6. Maybe a C7Z will make me come around on the looks of the C7. Right now it has too many disjointed angles for me. I think the entire auto industry is going through a fad of that right now.

In two years my financial stars will come into alignment and I'll be in a position to look for a nice C7Z or maybe a GS. Prices should continue to come down by then, and the way most CF guys take care of their cars, I should have a nice selection to choose from when they upgrade to C7s. When that happens both buyer and seller will be very happy.
Agree with you. The Base C6 does nothing for me, but with the Wide Body additions (Gran Sports and Z06/ZL1) actually are quite attractive.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 12:25 AM
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GM should start bringing their new engines in on the last year of the previous body styles. This keeps the demand high for the outgoing model, and let's them work on the kinks with the new engine.

Bring in a new brand new chassis, body, interior,exterior and engine with GM's legendary build quality and you're going to have lots of problems.

I'm waiting for the Z06, but I bet GM will price it to be closer to 85-90k.
Good thing for GM that the Porsche is even more overpriced.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 02:22 AM
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As much as the C5 is a PITA with its issues, I would take it over a 2014 C7 any day. We like to look at the newest model with awe because so many think newer means better. In this case its the farthest from the truth.

Take a look at the C7 forum. They have a section for problems related to the C7. Mods restrict posting to the oh so fortunate owners like they are the **** but in reality the C7 is crap. Wer know our C5s have issues but the C7 is a $70,000 car with more problems than a Yugo. From DICs that are mafunctioning and shorts in the various control units to misaligned cameras, loose body panels, misaligned hoods and torn headliners. Lets show some love to our cars because you could be driving a C7 and feeling very ripped off by GM.
I love my C5 and have, like many others, put enough money into it to purchase a C7. That being said, Stop the madness! The C7 is a great car, as far as vettes go. Lord willing, I will own one.
On an even more positive note, looking at the C5 vs C7 picture, the C5 doesn't look dated to me at all. Most impressive.
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Have any of you sat in the C7 and compared the room to the C5? Well I will tell you first hand, the C5 has MUCH MORE room than the C7. They made the interior smaller. I think they designed it for small people!
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This thread makes C5 owners look bad. The C7 IS A BETTER CAR. You can argue looks all you want, as looks are somewhat subjective, but aside from subjective things, the C7 is a better car in every conceivable way.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jd_black_00
This thread makes C5 owners look bad. The C7 IS A BETTER CAR. You can argue looks all you want, as looks are somewhat subjective, but aside from subjective things, the C7 is a better car in every conceivable way.
That's an absurd statement.

The C7 is just a car with 4 wheels....... how much better is subjective. If it was a car with 5 wheels and no steering wheel that hopped from one intersection to the next like a Toad, maybe it would seem as earth shattering as fan boys claim.

Believe it or not....there are some people who think it's just Ho-hum.
I'm interested in getting one maybe 3-4 years from now, but certainly can do without it.


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Originally Posted by sfc rick
Believe it or not....there are some people who think it's just Ho-hum.
Are you talking about the handling/performance/styling? If you're referring to handling, the C7 is better balanced with much more sophisticated suspension than any C5 model or C6 model for that matter. If you're referring to performance the C7 destroys the C5 in power/weight ratio. If you're referring to styling my point is still valid that it is subjective and your opinion means as much as mine. The fact that the track times of the C7 can compete with the C6 Z06 and can beat the Grand Sport makes me scratch my head at what is so "ho-hum" about the C7...
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sfc rick
That's an absurd statement.

The C7 is just a car with 4 wheels....... how much better is subjective. If it was a car with 5 wheels and no steering wheel that hopped from one intersection to the next like a Toad, maybe it would seem as earth shattering as fan boys claim.

Believe it or not....there are some people who think it's just Ho-hum.
I'm interested in getting one maybe 3-4 years from now, but certainly can do without it.

Ho-hum? Have you looked at the specs on the car? Nobody is forced to like it but acting like a C5 is a better car is just ridiculous. These cars are 17 years apart in technology and I just don't understand how people can act like their C5 is better. I like my C5 as much as anyone else here but it's insane to think its as good as the C7 because they both have four wheels.
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Are you talking about the handling/performance/styling? If you're referring to handling, the C7 is better balanced with much more sophisticated suspension than any C5 model or C6 model for that matter. If you're referring to performance the C7 destroys the C5 in power/weight ratio. If you're referring to styling my point is still valid that it is subjective and your opinion means as much as mine. The fact that the track times of the C7 can compete with the C6 Z06 and can beat the Grand Sport makes me scratch my head at what is so "ho-hum" about the C7...
Ho-hum? Have you looked at the specs on the car? Nobody is forced to like it but acting like a C5 is a better car is just ridiculous. These cars are 17 years apart in technology and I just don't understand how people can act like their C5 is better. I like my C5 as much as anyone else here but it's insane to think its as good as the C7 because they both have four wheels.
It is definitely subjective.....
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Ho-hum? Have you looked at the specs on the car? Nobody is forced to like it but acting like a C5 is a better car is just ridiculous. These cars are 17 years apart in technology and I just don't understand how people can act like their C5 is better. I like my C5 as much as anyone else here but it's insane to think its as good as the C7 because they both have four wheels.
What technology is that, that is so much better?
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97
What technology is that, that is so much better?
Really too much to list. But 11s out of the box and 29 mpg highway while doing quite well against the C6 top performers says a lot.

The C5 is, and will always be, a very capable car with great value but it just doesn't compare to a car two generations newer, and why should it? The world moves on and things improve.
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Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97
What technology is that, that is so much better?
Oooh, I'd like to take this one:

-460hp/455tq small block with VVT and Cylinder de-activation
-sophisticated electronics and improved driver aids including state-of-the-art sensor technology to monitor and enhance the vehicle's performance
-integrated differential and transmission coolers
-functional heat extracting hood
-rear-mounted engine allowing for slightly rear-biased weight balance
-brembo brakes
-hollow-core aluminum parts that were previously cast allowing for significant weight savings
-carbon fiber body panels
-best aerodynamics to date for a Corvette
-7-speed manual transmission

I'm sure I'm missing quite a few here but surely you get the point...
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Originally Posted by jd_black_00
Oooh, I'd like to take this one:

-460hp/455tq small block with VVT and Cylinder de-activation
-sophisticated electronics and improved driver aids including state-of-the-art sensor technology to monitor and enhance the vehicle's performance
-integrated differential and transmission coolers
-functional heat extracting hood
-rear-mounted engine allowing for slightly rear-biased weight balance
-brembo brakes
-hollow-core aluminum parts that were previously cast allowing for significant weight savings
-carbon fiber body panels
-best aerodynamics to date for a Corvette
-7-speed manual transmission

I'm sure I'm missing quite a few here but surely you get the point...
Very interesting, So how does all that stack up when a updated C5 stomps the snap out of one? I mean are all those advantages and technology make one feel better looking at the tecnicolor display and seeing the rear of a high powered C5.

I understand the attraction of buying one, but in reality it's just better to build a better performing car for far less money.

There are far too many C5 owners who have some wicked high performance cars that wouldnt trade down to a stock car. 460hp wouldn't touch them.

Anyway, Learn to be humble and stop trying to down a very capable C5 platform.

I've seen some homeboys turn LS engines into 2000hp monsters. Modern tech didn't start with C7.

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Originally Posted by sfc rick
Very interesting, So how does all that stack up when a updated C5 stomps the snap out of one? I mean are all those advantages and technology make one feel better looking at the tecnicolor display and seeing the rear of a high powered C5.

I understand the attraction of buying one, but in reality it's just better to build a better performing car for far less money.

There are far too many C5 owners who have some wicked high performance cars that wouldnt trade down to a stock car. 460hp wouldn't touch them.

Anyway, Learn to be humble and stop trying to down a very capable C5 platform.

I've seen some homeboys turn LS engines into 2000hp monsters. Modern tech didn't start with C7.
And what happens when you modify a C7?

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