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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 06:40 AM
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This thread seems to bring out lots of deep rooted feelings on all sides from many members. I like it.
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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 01:51 PM
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For me personally, if I see two blue bottles mounted in the trunk, I'm passing. I just bought my 2000 that needs a little TLC, but overall was in pretty decent condition. I paid 8K. The original seller started at 12K and couldn't get anyone to come up with the cash. It's been my experience (extensive) that mods are for your enjoyment and you'll be lucky to recoup a dime of it back. Obviously there are exceptions to every rule and wish the OP good luck on the sale. Big selling numbers are good for all of us
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Originally Posted by Robrote
For me personally, if I see two blue bottles mounted in the trunk, I'm passing. I just bought my 2000 that needs a little TLC, but overall was in pretty decent condition. I paid 8K. The original seller started at 12K and couldn't get anyone to come up with the cash. It's been my experience (extensive) that mods are for your enjoyment and you'll be lucky to recoup a dime of it back. Obviously there are exceptions to every rule and wish the OP good luck on the sale. Big selling numbers are good for all of us


So not only were those two blue bottles that were never used a waste of money initially, they might also cost him money again.


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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Josh
Given rule of thumb long before I was born is 40-50% on the dollar depending on the car.

Do the math on what $10,000 in mods entails, and then think $1,000 is worth asking without expecting a punch (or three) for even asking/insulting.
No f'ing way. In your logic, his $40,000 dollar in mods would be worth $18,000 (45%). Add that to an stock car worth about $18,000 and you get $36,000. If he can get $36,000 for his car, pigs will fly.
In my logic, his mods are worth $4,000. Add that to the stock car price of $18,000 and we get $22,000. That's about what his car would go for.
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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by knewblewkorvette
No f'ing way. In your logic, his $40,000 dollar in mods would be worth $18,000 (45%). Add that to an stock car worth about $18,000 and you get $36,000. If he can get $36,000 for his car, pigs will fly.
In my logic, his mods are worth $4,000. Add that to the stock car price of $18,000 and we get $22,000. That's about what his car would go for.
You are close. But I think the theory of mods being worth almost nothing is closer to the truth. We mod our cars for our pleasure. When the car sells for the same money as a stock car, we just have to accept that we had our fun. It's not an investment. it's just a toy. Sell it and move on to the next thing.

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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Robrote
For me personally, if I see two blue bottles mounted in the trunk, I'm passing. I just bought my 2000 that needs a little TLC, but overall was in pretty decent condition. I paid 8K. The original seller started at 12K and couldn't get anyone to come up with the cash. It's been my experience (extensive) that mods are for your enjoyment and you'll be lucky to recoup a dime of it back. Obviously there are exceptions to every rule and wish the OP good luck on the sale. Big selling numbers are good for all of us

Can we see some pics of the $8000 Corvette. If it runs and drives and has less than 150,000 miles you got the deal of the century.
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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by knewblewkorvette
No f'ing way. In your logic, his $40,000 dollar in mods would be worth $18,000 (45%). Add that to an stock car worth about $18,000 and you get $36,000. If he can get $36,000 for his car, pigs will fly.
In my logic, his mods are worth $4,000. Add that to the stock car price of $18,000 and we get $22,000. That's about what his car would go for.
And maybe not even $22K. 10% works about right. Sell the parts and car separately for sure (I'd say it could be a sliding scale; the more you spend the lower the percentage of return). As others noted, mod a car for your enjoyment, and consider the money spent.
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Obviously stripping some of the performance parts and selling separate is the best way to get the most money. If you are willing to take the time and effort, you can probably get 40%-50% off the car and less than 10% on the car. Unfortunately a lot of people think their cars are worth way more than actually are, and most aren't going to listen to anyone else, even when you show them actual sales numbers. I tried to explain that, but obviously hit a nerve.
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On topic: Much as it hurts, I'd be inclined to agree with the tops of 22k for it as it sets, definitely a bit more if parted. While I'm not at all opposed to the idea of buying a car that's already modded to get the mods cheaper? I'd be shying WAY away from a car with a SC and nitrous on it that has never even been on a dyno.

Off topic: Boy, I do LOVE C5 pricing threads of all shapes and forms. If one enjoys watching feathers get ruffled, they almost never disappoint, lol.
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On topic: Much as it hurts, I'd be inclined to agree with the tops of 22k for it as it sets, definitely a bit more if parted. While I'm not at all opposed to the idea of buying a car that's already modded to get the mods cheaper? I'd be shying WAY away from a car with a SC and nitrous on it that has never even been on a dyno.

Off topic: Boy, I do LOVE C5 pricing threads of all shapes and forms. If one enjoys watching feathers get ruffled, they almost never disappoint, lol.
1) Nitrous has never been used on the vehicle (as original post states).
2) Vehicle has been tuned. Tune is conservative. 10.8 AFR, conservative spark advance, low octane table utilized.

Also keep in mind that this setup only achieves 5psi boost (@6000rpm).
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Robrote
For me personally, if I see two blue bottles mounted in the trunk, I'm passing. I just bought my 2000 that needs a little TLC, but overall was in pretty decent condition. I paid 8K. The original seller started at 12K and couldn't get anyone to come up with the cash. It's been my experience (extensive) that mods are for your enjoyment and you'll be lucky to recoup a dime of it back. Obviously there are exceptions to every rule and wish the OP good luck on the sale. Big selling numbers are good for all of us
Decent condition = beat every day of its life. An $8000 corvette will be a basket case that needs more love than its worth. Its probably has near 200k hard driven miles or...you got an excellent deal

I change my oil with RP (not Walmart oil (aka mobile 1)) every 1-2k miles generally (which is about how many miles I put on in a year).

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Originally Posted by reactor2
1) Nitrous has never been used on the vehicle (as original post states).
2) Vehicle has been tuned. Tune is conservative. 10.8 AFR, conservative spark advance, low octane table utilized.

Also keep in mind that this setup only achieves 5psi boost (@6000rpm).
Oh don't get me wrong, as someone that's not in the market for another Vette, I believe/understand/see where you're coming from.

Like I said though, if I was a buyer? I wouldn't be willing to take your word for #1 and as for #2, I'd only be interested in buying that capable of a setup if it had been tuned by an objectively competent tuner. Not some random fella or a mail order tune.

Again, not trying to offend, just giving you an unbiased, 3rd party POV from someone without any skin in the game.
Good luck getting a price for it that gives ya warm and fuzzies!

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Originally Posted by reactor2
1) Nitrous has never been used on the vehicle (as original post states).
2) Vehicle has been tuned. Tune is conservative. 10.8 AFR, conservative spark advance, low octane table utilized.

Also keep in mind that this setup only achieves 5psi boost (@6000rpm).
With all due respect, I think you're missing the point. The fact you've never used the nitrous and you are only running 5 psi makes it worse. My first question if I was standing with you looking at the car would be why you didn't turn up the boost or use the nitrous. I hope you get $30k for it. That just makes my car that much more valuable. I just don't think anywhere close to that is realistic.

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With all due respect, I think you're missing his point. The fact you've never used the nitrous and you are only running 5 psi makes it worse. My first question if I was standing with you looking at the car would be why you didn't turn up the boost or use the nitrous.
That literally makes no sense. You'd be concerned that I did not push 250hp NOS through it while simultaneously running 12-14psi on a stock bottom end LS1? For sure a stock bottom end LS1 can handle a lot more than it currently has.
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I'm suggesting he remove the "performance upgrades". Especially if he wants to expand his potential customer base and maximize profits. I don't pretend to know what he would volunteer or even how he would answer direct questions. What I do know is that this is the real world not Mayberry RFD. You need to be an informed consumer. There are many ways to tell if a car has been abused or not besides the presence or absence of performance mods.
What are some of your tips for determining how a car has been treated?
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 10:05 PM
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You're wasting your time with this crowd.

Sell it as you see fit, trying to convince the few people
reading this thread set in their decision having never seen your car or one comparable outside of kbb or nada book value is a waste of time.
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Don tthink theres any set rule they get what they get every transaction is different

Once shied away from a Z06 that was obviously "put back to stock".
Didnt bother me so much as the tires were cheap 50 series something lots of hackwork thats all I needed to see shoulda just left the stuff on there

A guy who wants a stock one usually will not buy one put back to stock, in his mind its already been run off a cliff

Really I dont see what the big deal is in worrying about future resale if it impacts your life that much you are way in over your head financially and got other $tuff going on.

Its work worrying about it no?

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Oh don't get me wrong, as someone that's not in the market for another Vette, I believe/understand/see where you're coming from.

Like I said though, if I was a buyer? I wouldn't be willing to take your word for #1 and as for #2, I'd only be interested in buying that capable of a setup if it had been tuned by an objectively competent tuner. Not some random fella or a mail order tune.

Again, not trying to offend, just giving you an unbiased, 3rd party POV from someone without any skin in the game.
Good luck getting a price for it that gives ya warm and fuzzies!
You'll be happy to know that a professional engineer with OCD who's been building cars since he was 16 did 100% of the installation and tuning of this car.
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Originally Posted by ~Josh
You're wasting your time with this crowd.

Sell it as you see fit, trying to convince the few people
reading this thread set in their decision having never seen your car or one comparable outside of kbb or nada book value is a waste of time.
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