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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 11:22 AM
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Went to change the alternator bracket looks like the power hose was leaking new will be here at 2 always something lol
Damn it. Never fails.
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Old Feb 15, 2023 | 05:36 PM
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Just a few things to button up ,I did start it and dammnnn that thing sounds good .hopefully my tuner can get it in this weekend.tried posting a video of it running said it was to large so idk
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Just a few things to button up ,I did start it and dammnnn that thing sounds good .hopefully my tuner can get it in this weekend.tried posting a video of it running said it was to large so idk
Nice! Congratulations! You have to be pumped. Good luck getting her tuned this weekend.
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Old Feb 15, 2023 | 07:21 PM
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Nice! Congratulations! You have to be pumped. Good luck getting her tuned this weekend.
thanks appreciate it and yes really pumped
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Old Feb 15, 2023 | 08:47 PM
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thanks appreciate it and yes really pumped
Looking forward to seeing the curve and where it lands on power with that cam.
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Old Feb 16, 2023 | 06:38 AM
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Looking forward to seeing the curve and where it lands on power with that cam.
me too but kinda nervous hope it doesn’t disappoint
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Old Feb 16, 2023 | 08:40 AM
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me too but kinda nervous hope it doesn’t disappoint
Nah, I don't think that's possible unless you are unreasonably shooting for the stars on pump gas.

I can tell you first-hand that I wanted over 600rwhp/500rwtq on 93 pump without the hassle of meth. With my heads and cam I got my car back from ECS with 634/568 and that was prior to an ever so slight increase found when adding a Meziere EWP. My power/torque curve is awesome. But I still find myself considering a 4.10 again. My car drives like stock under 2500 RPMs (blessing & curse). I hate the way a C5 with 3.42s drives when stock!

Something to caution...My car ate the bell off the manual water pump on my maiden voyage from ECS. Took some of the fun out if it my first drive. Things to be aware of.
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Old Feb 16, 2023 | 10:37 AM
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Nah, I don't think that's possible unless you are unreasonably shooting for the stars on pump gas.

I can tell you first-hand that I wanted over 600rwhp/500rwtq on 93 pump without the hassle of meth. With my heads and cam I got my car back from ECS with 634/568 and that was prior to an ever so slight increase found when adding a Meziere EWP. My power/torque curve is awesome. But I still find myself considering a 4.10 again. My car drives like stock under 2500 RPMs (blessing & curse). I hate the way a C5 with 3.42s drives when stock!

Something to caution...My car ate the bell off the manual water pump on my maiden voyage from ECS. Took some of the fun out if it my first drive. Things to be aware of.
I’d be happy with 600 I think and I’m going to leave my 4.10’s and see how it does then go from there and see what’s next they’re never done
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Something to caution...My car ate the bell off the manual water pump on my maiden voyage from ECS. Took some of the fun out if it my first drive. Things to be aware of.
Now you're making me cross my fingers. I went with the 04 pump (C6 guts, C5 bell) because I wasn't sure if the 05 pulley depth would line up right or not. I *DID* spot weld the bell to the shaft in four points at the tip. Hoping that helps. Not against electric, but I've run them in the past and not as much a fan either on a driver.
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I’d be happy with 600 I think and I’m going to leave my 4.10’s and see how it does then go from there and see what’s next they’re never done
Looking forward to your debrief on the 4.10s mated with the Novi at 600+ HP. I'm itching to get back into the 4.10s but the big debate is the improved up to 2500rpm for the sacrifice of blasting through the gears even faster than it does now with 3.42 over 2500rpm. 1st and second are over in a flash.
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Looking forward to your debrief on the 4.10s mated with the Novi at 600+ HP. I'm itching to get back into the 4.10s but the big debate is the improved up to 2500rpm for the sacrifice of blasting through the gears even faster than it does now with 3.42 over 2500rpm. 1st and second are over in a flash.
I usually don’t get on it now in first or second don’t want buy new tires those 355’s are kinda expensive
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Now you're making me cross my fingers. I went with the 04 pump (C6 guts, C5 bell) because I wasn't sure if the 05 pulley depth would line up right or not. I *DID* spot weld the bell to the shaft in four points at the tip. Hoping that helps. Not against electric, but I've run them in the past and not as much a fan either on a driver.
I hear you! ECS has done countless supercharger installs and onlyy saw three manual water pumps fail like mine.

They recommended the Mezier to avoid a reccurence. Then under a year the first Meziere got destroyed something ( per Meziere's inspection-likely a stone or small piece of metal) got into the propellers of the pump (possibly from the Trackspec vented hood) and wrecked the water pump. So now I have a new new Meziere and hoping for the best. Third times a charm!

Long road trips and temps have stayed normal and all seems good based on last Summer drives. We will see this Spring/Summer if my luck with water pumps improves.


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Old Feb 16, 2023 | 11:00 AM
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Looking forward to your debrief on the 4.10s mated with the Novi at 600+ HP. I'm itching to get back into the 4.10s but the big debate is the improved up to 2500rpm for the sacrifice of blasting through the gears even faster than it does now with 3.42 over 2500rpm. 1st and second are over in a flash.
I have loved the 4.10s in the past, but it was NA 424rw on 335 michelins and later 315 nitto drs and that car just NEVER broke loose hard unless I made it happen.

Blowers making more torque to begin with, and then being spun up that much more rapidly in front of 4.10s which I imagine would amplify boost restriction slightly and prompt even more torque ( or maybe my concept of this is entirely wrong ) and.... well first gear never really existed when NA on that setup. My impression of 4.10s behind a blower would be that they are fun for sub 3k driving. And they would certainly load you into the power band sooner. But once you are into the power I expect the tires will haze without some form of ecu torque or traction control. And in terms of 1/4 times you're going to need to do fresh math around trans gears, 4.10s, tire size, and whatever rpm your cam/blower can safely make power through.

Bottom line: they'd be a BLAST for around town which is where most cars live. So I say do it, why not? But actual passes are going to take more work to nail down and some combos may force an extra shift vs being able to ride a gear in the 1/4 which could raise ET.
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Here's a calc I made when trying to determine which 6060 gear set I wanted to pick up for the Z06.

Enter your parameters into the Yellow boxes and it calculates out the speed you're going at X rpm shift point as well as (for the next gear) what rpm the engine drops to at shift so you can see where your power band should be.

MM6 equates to our base T56 and MZ6 equates to the Z06 MM12 gear sets.

Excel File HERE: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1602964832

Quick screen grab of 4.10s with 7000 rpm shift point on my current RE-11s at 26.20" calculated. Measure you tires yourself to be more accurate as this is a basic calculation of diameter based on tire listed dimension and actual tread heights vary wildly.

4.10s hit this shift point every 25mph. 3.42s hit it every 30mph and scale higher speeds at shift points.





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I usually don’t get on it now in first or second don’t want buy new tires those 355’s are kinda expensive
I'm running 285/40/18 Nitto NT555R2's and they are a great rubber especially for the price.
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I have loved the 4.10s in the past, but it was NA 424rw on 335 michelins and later 315 nitto drs and that car just NEVER broke loose hard unless I made it happen.

Blowers making more torque to begin with, and then being spun up that much more rapidly in front of 4.10s which I imagine would amplify boost restriction slightly and prompt even more torque ( or maybe my concept of this is entirely wrong ) and.... well first gear never really existed when NA on that setup. My impression of 4.10s behind a blower would be that they are fun for sub 3k driving. And they would certainly load you into the power band sooner. But once you are into the power I expect the tires will haze without some form of ecu torque or traction control. And in terms of 1/4 times you're going to need to do fresh math around trans gears, 4.10s, tire size, and whatever rpm your cam/blower can safely make power through.

Bottom line: they'd be a BLAST for around town which is where most cars live. So I say do it, why not? But actual passes are going to take more work to nail down and some combos may force an extra shift vs being able to ride a gear in the 1/4 which could raise ET.
My experience NA exactly with about the same NA RWHP.. Also my same thoughts and concerns with 4.10 FI. I've hungup the helmet on my track trips. I'm over breaking my ****. So that's the only reason I'm still 9n the fence with putting 4.10s back in.
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Looking forward to seeing your final numbers. Good luck getting the tires to hook.
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Looking forward to seeing your final numbers. Good luck getting the tires to hook.
thanks , I’m sending him my injector data tonight
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I'm running 285/40/18 Nitto NT555R2's and they are a great rubber especially for the price.
Wow, and here I thought I was the only guy running 285/40/18s in the back!! Mine are Goodyear Supercar, though, that I got a Helluva deal on, and Im sure they don't stick like your Nitto's do..
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